Hoi,
<grin> Jane is in my top 1% of most accomplished Wikimedians </grin> She is
VERY effective on both Wikipedia, Commons and WIkidata.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 1 June 2014 21:13, Rui Correia <correia.rui(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Well, from your previous post I was left the
distinct impression that
neither you nor your female friends edit the Wikipedia. So I have gone
back
and reread your post to see what I missed. I see that you and your friends
"interact". For the life of me I thought that by "interact" you meant
go
on
the internet and interact with people - on social media etc. Nothing in it
implied that you meant editing the WP.
And no, I have never edited on an iPad - why should I, if I work on as big
a screen as I can get that is still small enough to pack into a travel
bakpack? ;-)
Rui
2014-06-01 20:47 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>om>:
I'll bet you have never tried to edit
Wikipedia on an iPad
2014-06-01 20:25 GMT+02:00, Rui Correia <correia.rui(a)gmail.com>om>:
> Jane
>
> I think we are talking about two different things. Ownership of or
access
> to equipment with access to the internet is
not the same thing as we
are
talking
about. If anything, the fact that more women own any such
equipment
only goes to reinforce what we already know,
which is that not many
girls/
> women are taking part in editing the Wikipedia.
>
> Rui
>
>
> 2014-06-01 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>om>:
>
>> Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my personal circle of
>> female friends, most of them only interact with a smartphone or
>> tablet
>> and though they may own a full-fledged computer, they only interact
>> with that machine for certain boring and obligatory tasks such as
>> filing taxes and printing. This is in and of itself, a reason not to
>> edit, in my mind. Research into the use of tablets in 2012 in the
>> Netherlands did indicate that more women were active on them than
>> men,
>> and a simple google search picked this 2013 BBC article up about the
>> same holding true for women in the UK:
>> "Women own most of the UK's tablet computers says study"
>>
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-23355944
>>
>> Disclaimer: I am a frequent user of an iPad-1 that my mother (of all
>> people!) gave me for my birthday.
>>
>> 2014-06-01 8:52 GMT+02:00, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com>om>:
>> >> Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 06:39:38 +0100
>> >> From: Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com>
>> >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Increase participation [WAS: The first
>> >> three weeks]
>> >> Message-ID:
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>> >>
>> >> On 1 June 2014 04:26, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> ...
>> >> >>... selects strongly against women.
>> >> >
>> >> > Where is the evidence that women have more difficulty
understanding
>
>> > wikitext than men?
> >>
> >> (Probably drifting to "Increase participation by women")
> >>
> >> As someone who has run editathons on women focused topics, I found
> >> this an odd comment that does not match anecdotal experience. New
> >> women users seem little different to men in the issues that arise,
and
>> >> though I have found myself apologising for the slightly odd
>> >> syntax,
>> >> given the standard crib-sheet most users get on with basic article
>> >> creation quite happily.
>> >>
>> >> There are far more commonly raised issues such as the complex
issues
>> >> associated with image upload
(copyright!), or the conceptual
>> >> difficulty of "namespaces" which mean that some webpages
behave
>> >> differently to others. None is something that appears to "select
>> >> strongly against women", though the encyclopedia's way of
defining
>> >> notability can make it harder to create articles about pre-1970s
>> >> professional women, purely because sources from earlier periods
tend
>> >> to be biased towards men.
>> >>
>> >> If there are surveys that wiki-syntax is more of a barrier for
women
>> >> than men (after discounting out
other factors), perhaps someone
could
>
>> provide a link?
> >>
> >> Fae
> >
> > FWIW, I think that Lila said at the Zurich hackathon that she had
found
>> > research indicating that fewer women click the "edit" button than
men
> >
do.
> > That sounds like a phenomenon that could use some research and
> > experimentation.
> >
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014-05-10_Wikimedia_Hackathon_Lila…
>> >
>> >
>> > Also, the Individual Engagement Grants Committee and WMF have
funded
a
>> > research project in this IEG round
focused on women's
>> > participation.
>> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia
>> >
>> > Pine
>> >
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