Jane
I think we are talking about two different things. Ownership of or access
to equipment with access to the internet is not the same thing as we are
talking about. If anything, the fact that more women own any such equipment
only goes to reinforce what we already know, which is that not many girls/
women are taking part in editing the Wikipedia.
Rui
2014-06-01 9:30 GMT+02:00 Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>om>:
Of course I am just a sample of one, but in my
personal circle of
female friends, most of them only interact with a smartphone or tablet
and though they may own a full-fledged computer, they only interact
with that machine for certain boring and obligatory tasks such as
filing taxes and printing. This is in and of itself, a reason not to
edit, in my mind. Research into the use of tablets in 2012 in the
Netherlands did indicate that more women were active on them than men,
and a simple google search picked this 2013 BBC article up about the
same holding true for women in the UK:
"Women own most of the UK's tablet computers says study"
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-23355944
Disclaimer: I am a frequent user of an iPad-1 that my mother (of all
people!) gave me for my birthday.
2014-06-01 8:52 GMT+02:00, ENWP Pine <deyntestiss(a)hotmail.com>om>:
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On 1 June 2014 04:26, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
...
>... selects strongly against women.
Where is the evidence that women have more difficulty understanding
wikitext than men?
(Probably drifting to "Increase participation by women")
As someone who has run editathons on women focused topics, I found
this an odd comment that does not match anecdotal experience. New
women users seem little different to men in the issues that arise, and
though I have found myself apologising for the slightly odd syntax,
given the standard crib-sheet most users get on with basic article
creation quite happily.
There are far more commonly raised issues such as the complex issues
associated with image upload (copyright!), or the conceptual
difficulty of "namespaces" which mean that some webpages behave
differently to others. None is something that appears to "select
strongly against women", though the encyclopedia's way of defining
notability can make it harder to create articles about pre-1970s
professional women, purely because sources from earlier periods tend
to be biased towards men.
If there are surveys that wiki-syntax is more of a barrier for women
than men (after discounting out other factors), perhaps someone could
provide a link?
Fae
FWIW, I think that Lila said at the Zurich hackathon that she had found
research indicating that fewer women click the "edit" button than men do.
That sounds like a phenomenon that could use some research and
experimentation.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2014-05-10_Wikimedia_Hackathon_Lila…
Also, the Individual Engagement Grants Committee and WMF have funded a
research project in this IEG round focused on women's participation.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG/Women_and_Wikipedia
Pine
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