On Jul 10, 2014 10:36 AM, "Isarra Yos" zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/07/14 15:53, Brion Vibber wrote:
Perhaps it's time to stop calling self-selected surveys of a tiny subset
of
our user base "community consensus".
The vast majority of our user base never logs in, never edits, and never even hears about these RfC pages. Those are the people we're making an encyclopedia for.
-- brion
And those who do log in, edit, and comment on RfCs generally do so with
the understanding, on some level, that everything they do, that the entire encyclopedia, is for the readers, because without an audience there would be nothing. They know their audience, they interact directly with this audience on the talkpages and in email, and indeed they often use the site exactly as this audience would, simply taking things a step further to edit as well.
So when they speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never
comment, do not discount them. No more than you discount yourself when you try to speak for the users who never log in, never edit, and never comment.
-I
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Yes. Exactly this.
I am beyond tired of hearing that those who have volunteered hundreds or thousands of hours per person toward building the greatest educational work in history do not have at heart the interests of those who would use it. If I didn't care, there are plenty of other ways I could spend my free time.
We should value those volunteers, and quit belittling their concerns. They made this thing and they keep it running day to day. They deal with readers who get upset or confused about something. They do it for no pay and often very little thanks, for no other reason than that they care deeply about the project and its goals.
To say we don't care for the end users of that work is nonsensical and insulting. We differ with you on how to serve those users and our volunteers, who also greatly matter. Stop handwaving that away.
Todd