On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Russavia russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com wrote:
Nathan
To answer the tractor question first. Of course not, there is nothing copyrightable in this image. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Trademarked is never a reason for deletion. The logo is clearly PD-textlogo and is de minimis in that situation -- i.e. it's inclusion is incidental
In relation to the car in Tunisia, it could be trickier. It would depend a lot on Tunisian law. It could be de minimis, it might not be. It would depend.
Mario
If copyright holders are happy to have their materials on Commons it is the copyright holder who needs to speak up for this, and there are ways to go about this. Otherwise https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/COM:PRP is the policy that is drawn upon here.
Cheers
Russavia
The logo is not a text logo - see here for a clearer rendering: http://pictures.tractorfan.nl/groot/f/fendt/795254-logo-fendt.jpg
So perhaps in this case the fact that the design logo can't be seen clearly is a defense against deletion, but what if it were clearer and more squarely in frame? Surely there are many thousands of images where this comes up - a design element included in a photo of an object, scene or person that is copyrighted. In photos of Wikimedia events, there are individuals wearing clothing with copyrighted design elements. Delete?