On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Erik Moeller erik@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com wrote:
Like many other "old hands", it seems to get in the way of my workflow. Not an issue for me, as long as I can turn it off.
hehe, i suppose investing a million $$ to get you turning it off because it is in your way is probably not the goal :)
It's probably fine for "modern" viewing, although it's hard to guess that you get to the file page via the little Commons icon for people who (in all likelihood) have never seen that icon, or visited Commons.
Indeed, the icon to the File: page is currently very opaque. We're preparing for a round of possible changes to the viewing experience, potentially including
- moving caption above the fold so readers don't have to hunt for it
- moving disable action above-the-fold
- potentially eliminating the below-the-fold panel entirely
- emphasizing the File: page more prominently as the canonical source
of metadata
- separating out download/use actions more clearly
These changes will need to be carefully tested/validated. If you want to take a look at an early early (!) prototype (!!), see http://multimedia-alpha.wmflabs.org/wiki/Lightbox_demo , but please
magnus, do these changes make you turn it on again? if not, what would need to be better?
i think there is two kinds of feedback. (1) technical / feature / workflow issues. like "i cannot tag easy", "esc leaves mediaviewer instead of fullscreen", "browser zoom (ctrl-/+) does not work". "X takes one click more now". i d love this to be taken into account.
while i find design issues more difficult. the whole user experience needs, at least imo, consistency. tinkering here and there may quite heavily break that. better would be to encourage getting alternative full designs. if this would include how to clean the commons page ... but that might be too much :)
rupert