2014-08-13 2:46 GMT+02:00 svetlana svetlana@fastmail.com.au:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, at 23:42, Romaine Wiki wrote:
That the community reacts the way it does now, is because they care very much about the site and they notice something is terrible going wrong on WMF side and too less is done to fix those problems/issues!
if the community was not so willing to use force (ie a js hack) against the other party
You miss a very important thing here: the community does not want to use such measure at all, but is forced to this by the inappropriate behaviour of some WMF staff. The community gets the feeling that it isn't listened to, while it has serious points and considerations which are stepped over too lightly. And as I said before, we are all on the same ship. Sure a captain must make decisions, but if parts have serious comments, issues, and critics, such should not be ignored.
instead of talking properly
then the superprotect wouldn't exist at all
you seeing the problem there? whose problem is it? desire to act out of the blue instead of collaborating they didn't collaborate at all they added the js hack as if it was something urgent, that needs saving people from
i would only do this if someone added a virus into mv by mistake
this community thinks that its power structures allow to tromp onto other people
I do not think the community thinks that way. Members of the community can make mistake and staff members of WMF can make mistakes, I think that both that community and WMF are grown up enough to correct mistakes if they arise. Certainly inside the community are many critical people who watch these kind of things carefully and do correct those things when a mistake is made.
The German community did collaborate, did communicate. Having a voting is a desperate way of getting the attention of the big problems WMF has too little insight in apparently. The community does not think in power structures, WMF does.
Just as in 2013, again the problems start inside WMF and not in the community, and the community reacts on it.
Romaine