I agree with Ziko's point entirely here. The two people who have taken
part in this discussion so far who were present at the time have not given
anything to indicate it was more than a flippant remark made in a stressful
situation. Not that I agree with the sentiment of course, but I'm glad
that at this meeting a wide variety of views were obviously put forward and
robustly discussed.
I really have to wonder, do we want a community where the leaders have to
be so anodyne, colourless, and always "on message" that the occasional
"spirited" remark results in the Spanish Inquisition? Certainly, I would
understand why the person that make the remark might decline to come
forward given the relentless hounding that will inevitably occur. It seems
to me that what is being asked for by some is more than can be reasonably
expected from a human being. Personally, speaking as a Wikimedia donor and
a member of the community, I prefer to be lead by fallible human beings
rather than robots.
Cheers,
Craig
On 7 April 2014 19:46, Ziko van Dijk <vandijk(a)wmnederland.nl> wrote:
Hello,
I think that a single quote by a unnamed "female Wikimedian", said in
public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate
criticism...
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Montag, 7. April 2014 schrieb Fred Bauder :
Once the money an organization obtain from grants
out matches anything
they get from anywhere else they become autonomous. "Community support"
just becomes a box to check.
Fred
This week's issue of the English Wikipedia
Signpost delivers mildly
shocking news about the opinion of a "prominent female Wikimedian (...)
about the meaning of the movement and the role of the chapters" as
expressed during the Boards training workshop that took place between
March 1-2 in London.
The Wikimedian is quoted by the treasurer of Wikimedia Deutschland,
Steffen Prößdorf, as saying: "if we can buy free knowledge, we should
do
that [and] just forget about the communities" and "Fuck the community,
who cares."
I understand that the identity of the person will remain secret, given
that there is no public list of attendees of the workshop, so let me
just say that the idea that chapters can "fuck the community" is
absolutely unacceptable and should by rejected by all chapters
immediately.
Read more at:
*
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-04-02/News_…
http://steproe.wordpress.com/2014/04/05/die-sinnfrage-was-ist-der-zweck-von…
Tomasz
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