Hoi, Money entrusted to a chapter is for that chapter to spend as they see fit. The notion that it is money from the "public" is not a license for everyone to meddle. There are people and places where such scrutiny is best expressed. When questions are asked, let them be questions and not implicit condemnations.
Fae can do whatever he likes. However, he should understand that as a former chair it is best for the new team to move in its own direction and not in the old direction. There is plenty that can be done that is not controversial.
When formalities are used as arguments, you loose sight what the formalities are there for. It is best to "ignore all rules" when that gets the job done in an effective way. The notion that because somewhere else in "the movement" things have gone "wrong" does not justify the current criticism. A legitimate question could be "you are sending a large delegation, why is that". It is not legitimate to say "you waste money by sending people to a conference, why is that".
Thanks,
GerardM
Op 31 mrt. 2014 16:44 schreef "Russavia" russavia.wikipedia@gmail.com:
Gerard, et al
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
My point is very much that it is for the chapter to decide if they spend their money wisely. It is for members of a chapter to question this at an appropriate time and at an appropriate place.
Might I make a point here.
It is not "their money", but rather the money of donors -- i.e. the general public -- who are every year told that Wikipedia needs your help to survive.
The "movement", as you all like to refer to it, has a tendency to waste money on frivolous things such as travel and accommodation, as demonstrated last year by http://twkozlowski.net/how-40k-dollars-turned-to-petty-cash/and http://twkozlowski.net/saving-by-spending-according-to-affcom/
The appropriate time to question such spending is BEFORE the funds is committed and spent. The place is unimportant, but here is as good as any.
As a member of "the movement", Fae has every right to ask such questions, and I believe he also has the right to be able to ask such questions without snide remarks such as "Really Fae, as you are no longer the chair, why rule "from the grave"?" being thrown at him . Unfortunately, there is a tendency in "the movement" when legitimate questions are raised, for a committed movementarian to deflect from that questioning with snide attacks.
Now, Fae has asked some legit questions of UK chapter, and it is only fair that they answer them.
Cheers,
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