On 08/10/2015 12:09 PM, Pine W wrote:
Just to clarify a few points: I support the concept of
having a global
friendly spaces policy. I'm ambivalent and reluctant when it comes to the
particular proposal that we're discussing here. And I think that we should
keep in mind that any policy's usefulness for social change will be much
higher if it has community consensus.
Two emails that I'm revisiting in my thought process are from Frances. I
agree that personal attacks can be demoralizing and uncivil, and they do
happen in our communities on occasion. I'm unclear about how to word a
policy that spells out how to AGF and prohibit the kind of incivility in
Oliver's example. Would it make sense, I wonder, to copy some of English
Wikipedia's highly developed policies into technical spaces like WP:NPA?
Forbidding personal attacks is certainly an important part of this (and
I can also cite personal attacks that have unfortunately happened in our
technical spaces).
However, that is not the whole solution. There are other forms of
harassment, etc. besides personal attacks.
Personally, I think that a global policy might work
better.
I don't have any objection to people working on a global policy. But I
don't think we should drop the current concrete work due to a hypothetical.
Matt Flaschen