On 08/10/2015 12:09 PM, Pine W wrote:
Just to clarify a few points: I support the concept of having a global friendly spaces policy. I'm ambivalent and reluctant when it comes to the particular proposal that we're discussing here. And I think that we should keep in mind that any policy's usefulness for social change will be much higher if it has community consensus.
Two emails that I'm revisiting in my thought process are from Frances. I agree that personal attacks can be demoralizing and uncivil, and they do happen in our communities on occasion. I'm unclear about how to word a policy that spells out how to AGF and prohibit the kind of incivility in Oliver's example. Would it make sense, I wonder, to copy some of English Wikipedia's highly developed policies into technical spaces like WP:NPA?
Forbidding personal attacks is certainly an important part of this (and I can also cite personal attacks that have unfortunately happened in our technical spaces).
However, that is not the whole solution. There are other forms of harassment, etc. besides personal attacks.
Personally, I think that a global policy might work better.
I don't have any objection to people working on a global policy. But I don't think we should drop the current concrete work due to a hypothetical.
Matt Flaschen