In my experience, the bots in the channel are an important part of our
workflow -- new bug reports, bug updates, and patches in gerrit. When I'm
discussing things in #wikimedia-dev I usually end up having to manually add
references to something that a bot already sent to #mediawiki, which is one
of the reasons I've always preferred using #mediawiki.
Please don't make yet another split-off channel; that'll be annoying and
make things more complicated for little if any benefit.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:01 AM, btb <btb(a)bitrate.net> wrote:
i'm hopeful this is the appropriate venue for this topic - i recently had
occasion to visit #mediawiki on freenode, looking for help. i found myself
a bit frustrated by the amount of bot activity there and wondered if there
might be value in some consideration for this. it seems to frequently
drown out/dilute those asking for help, which can be a bit
discouraging/frustrating. additionally, from the perspective of those who
might help [based on my experience in this role in other channels],
constant activity can sometimes engender disinterest [e.g. the irc client
shows activity in the channel, but i'm less inclined to look as it's
probably just a bot].
to offer one possibility - i know there are a number of mediawiki and/or
wikimedia related channels - might there be one in which bot activity might
be better suited, in the context of less contention between the two
audiences [those seeking help vs. those interested in development, etc]?
one nomenclature convention that seems to be at least somewhat of a
defacto standard is #project for general help, and #project-dev[el] for
development topics. a few examples of this i've seen are android,
libreoffice, python, and asterisk. adding yet another channel to this list
might not be terribly welcome, but maybe the distinction would be worth the
as i'm writing this, i see another thread has begun wrt freenode, and i
also see a bug filed that relates at least to some degree [
so i may just be repeating an existing sentiment, but i wanted to at least
offer a brief perspective.
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