Wikitech-l January 2015

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Wikimedia engineering report, November 2014
by Guillaume Paumier 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities in November 2014 is now available: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/Report/2014/November -- Guillaume Paumier

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MediaWiki Developer Summit: The future of Language Converter
by C. Scott Ananian 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Another late addition to the developer summit: let's talk about language converter, content translation tools, and other ways to bridge language differences between projects. 2:45pm PST today (Tuesday) in Robertson 3. Task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87652 Here's a list of all the wikis currently using (or considering to use) Language Converter: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_systems#LanguageConverter Some provocative questions to spur your attendance: 1. Should zhwiki split for mainland China and Taiwan? What about Malay? 2. Should we be using LanguageConverter on enwiki to handle British/Australian/Indian/American spelling differences? 3. Perhaps Swiss German and "High" German should be different wikis? Or use LanguageConverter? Or use Content Translation tools? 4. How do we best edit content which has slight localized differences? Templates? Interface strings? Can we scale our tools across this range? See you there! --scott -- (http://cscott.net)

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Technical question about FQDN
by Ilario Valdelli 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

May someone help me? I have read the short documentation of variables like: $wgInternalServer $wgServer But I don't understand how combine them to get the Mediawiki accessible internally with a local IP AND externally with a FQDN without broking the absolute links of the CSS and javascripts. Thank you -- Ilario Valdelli Wikimedia CH Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens Association pour l’avancement des connaissances libre Associazione per il sostegno alla conoscenza libera Switzerland - 8008 Zürich Wikipedia: Ilario <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ilario> Skype: valdelli Facebook: Ilario Valdelli <https://www.facebook.com/ivaldelli> Twitter: Ilario Valdelli <https://twitter.com/ilariovaldelli> Linkedin: Ilario Valdelli <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=6724469> Tel: +41764821371 http://www.wikimedia.ch

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Archcom plans
by Brion Vibber 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

I just want to thank everybody who participated in the 'future of the architecture committee' session at the dev summit today -- we had some great discussion and good ideas and concerns from a lot of people. Damon has proposed that the committee plan a provisional governance model formalizing the Archcom and clarifying what we do, what we don't do, and what people expect out of us beyond looking over RfCs. Provisional plan is to have something in place or ready to ratify by the European hackathon in Lyon (in May: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lyon_Hackathon_2015 ) More details to come as we work stuff out -- I think we'll want to do some open discussion on the subject, so don't be shy with ideas, constructive criticism, etc! -- brion

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ResourceLoader: modifying dependencies dynamically?
by Daniel Barrett 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

I have an extension that affects wiki tables using JavaScript. In order for it to work, I need it to load *before* one of the core JS modules, jquery.tablesorter. Is there a supported way to modify the ResourceLoader dependencies of jquery.tablesorter? Effectively I want to do something like: $r = getResourceLoader(); $r->moduleInfos['jquery.tablesorter']['dependencies'][] = 'my.custom.extension.js'; before any JS modules actually get used. Thanks, DanB ________________________________ My email address has changed to danb(a)cimpress.com. Please update your address book. Cimpress is the new name for Vistaprint NV, the world’s leader in mass customization. Read more about Cimpress at www.cimpress.com. ________________________________

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Re: [Wikitech-l] MediaWiki Developer Summit: The future of Language Converter
by wctaiwan 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

I think any decision to split wikis should not be made without consensus within the affected communities. From a technical standpoint, it would be much easier to decide in favour of a split, but I'm worried that the social ramifications of such a decision would be overlooked in a discussion among developers. It might be a good idea to present the challenges of continuing to maintain Language Converter to the communities, but if, for example, it turns out that having a single Chinese language is better for our free knowledge goals, then it might still be worth investing the time needed to overcome the technical hurdles.

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Odd API errors spotted this morning (around 08:25 UTC to 10:20 UTC)
by Brad Jorsch (Anomie) 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Something seems to have gone weird with the API this morning, to the point where something like this would have intermittently failed on enwiki: // The POST parameter 'cmtitle' has value 'Category:Articles to be expanded' $title = RequestContext::getMain()->getRequest()->getVal( 'cmtitle' ); $titleObj = Title::newFromText( $title ); assert( $titleObj->getNamespace() === NS_CATEGORY ); I don't see anything around that timeframe that would have made that happen. Does anyone have any ideas? -- Brad Jorsch (Anomie) Software Engineer Wikimedia Foundation

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Wikidata search provider for GNOME Shell
by Bahodir Mansurov 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

I’ve created a GNOME Shell extension that allows the user to search for Wikidata items directly from the shell. Currently you can search for simple things such as “Obama”, “Book”, etc. I plan on adding support for complex queries such as “the population of the earth” which would show the current population of the earth. In the future I also see this extension handle the submission of new entries or editing existing ones. Check it out here [1] if you’re interested. Pull requests are also welcome ;) [1] https://github.com/6ahodir/wikidata-search-provider

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Current status of IPv6 connectivity?
by Strainu 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Hi, Are there any reports that could allow one to check the status of IPv6 connectivity in the WMF cluster? If not, could you let me know if IPv6 is deployed on all servers and if you consider it stable? I'm seeing huge variations in IPv6 performance when connecting to WMF servers, while the rest of the internet seems to work and I'm trying to determine if the problem is on my side, somewhere on the way, or in the WMF network. Thanks, Strainu

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Thank you for listening (@ the Developer Summit)
by Trevor Parscal 27 Jan '15

27 Jan '15

Today I had the *fun* job of presenting and answering questions for 2 hours and 15 minutes straight. I didn't actually realize this would turn out to be the marathon that it did, but I feel like it turned out better than expected. I was especially impressed with the positive attitude that everyone had as they challenged my viewpoints and patiently heard me out. Thank you to those willing to spar with me from across the room over microphones. I really value people who question authority in search for the right answer. I felt proud today to work at a place where rigorous public debate is still alive and well. Also thank you to Jarred, Roan, Ed and Timo for taking some of the questions, allowing me shut up for a bit. - Trevor

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