Wikitech-l July 2007

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Possible live mirroring, stealing of brandwith
by Dan Collins 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

I've seen a great deal of live mirrors, and generally the devs tell me that whenever they block one, it will spring up from another IP, and that they don't bother. There is/was a page on meta (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Live_mirrors) which is very inactive and which I don't see any comments from devs on, plus reporting en masse is a hassle. If there is another more active page, I'd love to know about it, otherwise I can post here. An old list is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:ST47/Mirrors On 7/17/07, Casey Brown <cbrown1023(a)comcast.net> wrote: > We recently receive and OTRS tip > <https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom > <https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID= > 984033> &TicketID=984033>, that the site music.musictnt.com: > > ".is likely querying WP in real-time to serve-up WP's content +/- as-is, if > not for the the lack of a proper GFDL notice. Aside from the copyright > issues, this way of "Mirroring" is a drain on WP's bandwidth and server > resources." > > The user also mentioned that there was no clear place to contact about this > type of problem. He now knows to contact Wikitech-l, but we may wish to > advertise that more. (But that is a separate discussion entirely.) > > I have not investigate this matter at all, I am just relaying the message. > > Thanks, > Casey Brown > Cbrown1023 > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list > Wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l > -- ST47 Editor, en.wikipedia

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Possible live mirroring, stealing of brandwith
by Casey Brown 17 Jul '07

17 Jul '07

We recently receive and OTRS tip <https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom <https://secure.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID= 984033> &TicketID=984033>, that the site music.musictnt.com: ".is likely querying WP in real-time to serve-up WP's content +/- as-is, if not for the the lack of a proper GFDL notice. Aside from the copyright issues, this way of "Mirroring" is a drain on WP's bandwidth and server resources." The user also mentioned that there was no clear place to contact about this type of problem. He now knows to contact Wikitech-l, but we may wish to advertise that more. (But that is a separate discussion entirely.) I have not investigate this matter at all, I am just relaying the message. Thanks, Casey Brown Cbrown1023

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Captcha-Bug finally caught in the act :p
by Daniel Arnold 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

Hi folks, During registering an account for another person in Wikipedia I was able to find the msysterious "Wrong-Captcha"-Bug. I registered http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:ChatSocke, see (also timestamp): http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spezial%3ALogbuch&type=newusers&u… At my first attempt the right graphical captcha was "veryours" but it clearly did read as "veryaurs" (which I typed wrongly in and so got the error, although I knew that this was strange English). The little "o" definitely was displayed as a little "a" (the right side was strechted to a sharp vertical line, like in a real "a"). So it is no surprise that en.wikipedians do make less failures on english captchas with undefineable letters. I hope you can track and maybe solve the problem now (people bug our Wikmedia-OTRS quite often with captcha problems). Cheers, Arnomane

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-CVS] SVN: [24140] trunk/phase3
by Brion Vibber 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 amidaniel(a)svn.wikimedia.org wrote: > Added hook point to allow extensions to add to contentSub on Special:Contributions. This seems like a pretty weirdly specialized hook point to me. I'd rather ditch the hook and just see DeletedContributions merged into core; the only reason it wasn't already was that the indexes weren't there. The two pages can then link to each other cleanly. Here are the revisions to revert: 24140 24141 24147 24158 24159 24160 24161 - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGm8U0wRnhpk1wk44RAvKNAJ4h8MODTwpT5DgXMfk9/n/jQrtqdACgpAYE 62oww6LOuswZG7sNm8MuZvg= =Y7KU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Multilingual features in MediaWiki
by Sean Whitton 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

Hey wikitech people, I have a press enquiry asking about how we run multilingual Wikipedias as an example of website localisation that has been done well. MediaWiki was designed from the start to be inherently multilingual, or so I have gathered, and I was wondering if anyone on this list has any thoughts I should include. I'm referring to the software being international, rather than having been internationalised. Some not-too-technical commentary would be great to paraphrase into my reply. I am covering the social aspects of translation too, but our technical innovations are important. Thanks, [[m:User:Sean Whitton]] -- Regards, —Sean Whitton (seanw) http://seanwhitton.com/

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Re: [Wikitech-l] [MediaWiki-CVS] SVN: [24163] trunk/phase3/skins
by Rob Church 16 Jul '07

16 Jul '07

On 16/07/07, simetrical(a)svn.wikimedia.org <simetrical(a)svn.wikimedia.org> wrote: > Revision: 24163 > Author: simetrical > Date: 2007-07-16 14:42:27 +0000 (Mon, 16 Jul 2007) > > Log Message: > ----------- > * Add CSS compatibility for Opera 9.5 > * Remove largely untested handheld stylesheet, which was causing more trouble > than good. Proper handheld support will be added at a future date. For now, > display should be acceptable either with CSS turned off or when using a so- > phisticated handheld browser. > > Per discussion with David Storey from Opera. Whee! Thanks to David for the welcome co-operation, and thanks to Simetrical for taking some initiative. :D Rob Church

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Windows Mobile Wikipedia [Ticket#2007070410015406] Dear Wikipedia
by maillists1a＠aol.com 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

Dear Wikipedia, My name is Joshua Kriger. I am currently developing software for wikipedia on a mobile phone. I see on your technical FAQ page that if you use a Spider to retrieve data to set a limit on searches to one search every 60 seconds. Currently I have 2 phones connected to a refurbished dell PC that I am using on a Static IP address. Previously I have done what Wikipedia FAQ preferres to use, the Wiki Dumps, but this makes the search on my end extremely slow and is not a live Wikipedia experience. Since I am doing so few searches daily to the mobile phones (right now its less then 25). Is it possible to be grant my IP permission to spider wikipedia in intervals less then one minute without having my IP blocked. Previously I read on the Wikipedia FAQ that the suggestion for a spider server was one search per second (which would be totally acceptable since I am using so few phones) but I see now this has been updated to once per minute which will be more difficult when I move from two phones online to my eventual target of 10. I also want to thank you for your time in dedication to building such a wonderful service. Yours, Josh -----Original Message----- From: Wikipedia information team <info-en(a)wikimedia.org> To: joshuakriger(a)aol.com Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:52 pm Subject: Re: [Ticket#2007070410015406] Dear Wikipedia Dear joshuakriger(a)aol.com, Thank you for your mail. joshuakriger(a)aol.com wrote: > Dear Wikipedia info Administrator, > > I am currently working on a Wikipedia Mobile application and I am in > testing phases. I see on your website, > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Technical_FAQ#Is_it_possible_to_down… > > that you suggest having a spider connect once every minute so that IP > address does not get banned. I previously tried working the Mobile > project through Wikipedia Dumps but my refurbished dell could not > handle the bulk of Wikipedia as well as conducting timely searches. My > estimate is for about a year I will have less then 10 mobile devices > connecting to Wikipedia through a spider server and at its peak > searching no more then 100 articles a day. Is there anything I can do > to prevent Wikipedia from banning my IP address. Also, recently you > have changed your suggestion for a Spider search from once a second to > once a minute, is this true that if I search off my mobile through the > refurbished dell that I will have my IP banned if it is shorter then > once a minute? Is there a way that I can provide Wikipedia with my IP > address so that I will not be placed on a restricted list for a low > number searches? > > Josh > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > Please contact the Wikimedia Foundation's Tech mailing list <http:lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l>. Yours sincerely, Casey Brown -- Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org --- Disclaimer: all mail to this address is answered by volunteers, and responses are not to be considered an official statement of the Wikimedia Foundation. For official correspondence, you may contact the site operators at <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. =0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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Brainstorming wizard implementation
by Michael Heyder 14 Jul '07

14 Jul '07

Hi, at the moment I'm thinking about the right way to implement wizards. The first one, that should be added is a news-wizard. But some others will follow. So it's hardly recommanded to have a ice conzept to implemet this configureable. For instance if the newswizard is enabled, some standard routines must be manipulated. Perhaps someone out here has some helpful advices so long Michael

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Search engine spammers notice the lack of nofollow on mirrors
by David Gerard 13 Jul '07

13 Jul '07

Oh, feckin' yay. http://www.smallbusinesssem.com/2007/07/12/yes-virginia-there-are-followed-… Someone want to start contacting the mirrors about this and strongly suggesting nofollow? Particularly answers.com! Do many of the mirrors use the HTML dumper in MediaWiki? Does this dumper nofollow the links? - d.

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MediaWiki 1.10.1 released
by Brion Vibber 13 Jul '07

13 Jul '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 This is a bugfix update to the Spring 2007 quarterly release snapshot. A number of fixes to improve compatibility with PostgreSQL, some versions of MySQL, and some PHP configurations are included. Note that the quarterly 1.11.0 release with bigger changes should follow within the next week or two. Changes since 1.10.0: * (bug 9417) Uploading new versions of images when using Postgres no longer throws warnings. * (bug 9908) Using tsearch2 with Postgres 8.1 no longer gives an error. * (bug 9973) Changed size was shown in advanced recentchanges collapsible items with $wgRCShowChangedSized = false. * Fixed installation on MyISAM or old InnoDB with charset=utf8, was giving overlong key errors. * Fixed zero-padding issues with MySQL 5 binary schema * (bug 9820) session.save_path check no longer halts installation, but warns of possible bad values * (bug 9978) Fixed session.save_path validation when using extended configuration format, e.g. "5;/tmp" Full release notes: http://svn.wikimedia.org/svnroot/mediawiki/tags/REL1_10_1/phase3/RELEASE-NO… Download: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.1.tar.gz http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.1.patch (Patch is against 1.10.0) PGP signature: http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.1.tar.gz.sig http://download.wikimedia.org/mediawiki/1.10/mediawiki-1.10.1.patch.sig MD5 checksum: 7c8c938cf3ca57cecf6192ca54c33859 mediawiki-1.10.1.tar.gz f3ca7e3d0ad46117285a11d959b80722 mediawiki-1.10.1.patch SHA-1 checksum: 16429c3a611dec82c0cfd998180190544982a5ee mediawiki-1.10.1.tar.gz f50260426645d62bc1c781ebf2a3267c68cac9a9 mediawiki-1.10.1.patch Before asking for help, try the FAQ: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:FAQ Low-traffic release announcements mailing list: (Please subscribe to receive announcements of security updates.) http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce Wiki admin help mailing list: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l Bug report system: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Play "stump the developers" live on IRC: #mediawiki on irc.freenode.net - -- brion vibber (brion @ wikimedia.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGl9tdwRnhpk1wk44RAjbbAJ4/zvfkriUtJYrM9QDHFpjyEYvTLACePpno BEt2F1NZhLH7knPYT6cA3mE= =avkV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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