Wikitech-l June 2005

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Brief network uplink outage; nameserver for wikipedia.org
by Brion Vibber 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Our uplink from Tampa via Level3 went down for about 10 minutes; PowerMedium either got it back up or rerouted around it and everything seems fine again now. However it has reminded us that we need to add our backup nameserver in Amsterdam (fuchsia.knams.wikimedia.org) to the record for wikipedia.org. Currently it's unclear who if anyone has access to that account to add it; I think Jason may but it may require restting the account password. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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New food for download.wikimedia.org
by Jochen Magnus 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Can we hope for new food on http://download.wikimedia.org/ ? The current dumps are more than four weeks old. I would prefere fresh dumps every week or at least in a 14-day-cycle. Thanks jo

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Search configuration
by Philippe Roth 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Dear All, We just made a fresh install of our wiki base 1.2.4 to mediawiki 1.4.5 Everything seems to be OK except that we have problems with search... We have several articles about "plotters". But if we make a search for "plotter", there is no article found. Same with "plot*", nothing. The articles are found only when we make a search for "plotters". How can we configure our installation to make search like "plot*","plotter" and so on successful? Many thanks in advance for light. Best regards, Philippe Roth

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Question about page moves
by Edward Z. Yang 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

> I used to be completely paranoid about vandals using page moves to > shuffle article titles, by repeatedly swapping titles via a temporary > page. That is, until I realised this attack was already protected > against, using the feature you describe above. A feature, hmm... > This has already happened several times, we've seen this scenario played > out to the fullest extent. We've implemented a few features to deal with > it, such as "undo" links in RC and checks for "newbies" attempting to > move pages. Allowing users to move over arbitrary redirects would open > us up to truly irreversible attacks, rather than just attacks reversible > only by admins. What you mean by irreversible you mean that the page jumps over arbitrary redirects and you can't just click "undo" to reverse them all? Hmm... that would be a problem. (aside) Excepting the fact that redirects (usually) are pretty straightforward when it comes correlations (but still, it's not as convenient as UNDO. I'm not sure anymore. Page moves are such an arcane matter and most Wikipedians wouldn't know what to do about page move weirdness. Then again, after really looking at the system, I'm starting to think that the way page moves is implemented is genius: a mix between giving the users control and keeping the situation under control. And Brion, err, sorry, I sorta tried out my theory on the Volapuk article and forgot to clean up my mess. :oops: I added a little extra documentation on this feature on the Metawiki page on Page Moves. -- Edward Z. Yang Personal: edwardzyang(a)thewritingpot.com SN:Ambush Commander Website: http://www.thewritingpot.com/ GPGKey:0x869C48DA http://www.thewritingpot.com/gpgpubkey.asc 3FA8 E9A9 7385 B691 A6FC B3CB A933 BE7D 869C 48DA

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Question about page moves
by Edward Z. Yang 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

> Could you explain the terms you're using here? > * What's an OK MOVE? A move that works, that is, it's allowed by the system. Moving a page to a nonexistent page is an "OK MOVE". Moving a page to a history-less redirect is usually an OK MOVE. > * What's a BADMOVE? A move that doesn't work: failed move, can't do it, that sort of thing. Should have said failed move or something. Moving a page to another Article with a history is a BADMOVE. >> Page A ---BADMOVE---> Page B (history-less redirect to page C) > * How does a page C come in on BADMOVEs? Page C in the example you cited is just some random page the redirect points to. It's important to distinguish between page B and page C the same way this works: Penguin is an article Phoenix is an article Ice Bird is a history-less redirect to Penguin Fire Bird is a history-less redirect to Phoenix You can move Penguin to Ice Bird but not to Fire Bird. Phoenix is our "Article C" Hope that cleared things up. -- Edward Z. Yang Personal: edwardzyang(a)thewritingpot.com SN:Ambush Commander Website: http://www.thewritingpot.com/ GPGKey:0x869C48DA http://www.thewritingpot.com/gpgpubkey.asc 3FA8 E9A9 7385 B691 A6FC B3CB A933 BE7D 869C 48DA

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What HTML tags and their attributes are acceptable within the syntax by MediaWiki
by Shlomi Fish 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Hi! I'd like to ask what HTML tags and which of their attributes are acceptable within the MediaWiki syntax? I've looked at Parser.php but it's confusing. I need it because I and some other guy are writing a parser and HTML converter for MediaWiki syntax in Perl. Regards, Shlomi Fish --------------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish shlomif(a)iglu.org.il Homepage: http://www.shlomifish.org/ Tcl is LISP on drugs. Using strings instead of S-expressions for closures is Evil with one of those gigantic E's you can find at the beginning of paragraphs.

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Squid failures
by Brion Vibber 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

A bunch of our squid proxies are currently offline with some sort of problem we haven't totally diagnosed yet, after fixing what looked like a straightforward configuration syntax error. Hopefully we'll have them all back online soon. Site may be intermittent until then. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Security Questions
by Stefan Mahler 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hi, Can I create special areas in MediaWiki version 1.4.5, which are viewable / editable by special user groups? Thanks, Stefan

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Creating own skin
by Stefan Mahler 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hi, I want to create my own skin, e.g. to add a logo bar at the bottom at the side. For this I've overwritten the MySkin-Skin with a class extends MonoBook-Skin. But its equal that I do (e.g. I add some stupid text like 'AAAAAAAA' in the divs of the stream in MySkinTemplate::execute() method), it has no effect. What did I wrong? thanks, Stefan

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PHP- Time constant with Mysql queries?
by Kevin Carillo 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hello I have written a PHP script in order to make a couple of modifications in the table "old" (for a research project onWikipedia groups). I am using all the functions present in Mediawiki (by including them in my PHP script). Globally, the script launches a bunch of "select" queries on the table, and update some fields. However, my script stops after 30 seconds, each time it is launched, with no error or anything like that. I've checked many times, and it is always after 30 seconds that it stops. Is there any time constant defined in the source code that may explain such a behavior? or anything in the global variables? I've checked differrent files such as setup.php, localSettings.php, DefaultSettings.php, but I have not found anything. Thank you. Kevin Carillo

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