Wikitech-l June 2005

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MediaWiki to Latex Converter
by Hugo Vincent 18 Jun '12

18 Jun '12

Hi everyone, I recently set up a MediaWiki (http://server.bluewatersys.com/w90n740/) and I need to extra the content from it and convert it into LaTeX syntax for printed documentation. I have googled for a suitable OSS solution but nothing was apparent. I would prefer a script written in Python, but any recommendations would be very welcome. Do you know of anything suitable? Kind Regards, Hugo Vincent, Bluewater Systems.

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machine translaton of the articles...
by prasad gadgil 20 Nov '05

20 Nov '05

Hi, I have just joined, I am from mumbai, india. I would like to get the articles translated in marathi, my mother tongue. Looking at the effort and no of volunteers, this will not be usable in any reasonable amount of time. That has made me think of alternatives - machine translation. A state funded institute has a software available but I don't have access to it yet. Pl. comment about this approach. Has this been tried for any other language earlier. Thanks & regards, Prasad Gadgil ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony

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Edit conflict
by Philipp 19 Sep '05

19 Sep '05

Hello, in the past few days the following problem occurred in a local mediawiki installation: When opening an article for edit, everything seems in order. Showing the preview also works and the change applied to the article is shown. But when trying to submit, one gets the other-user-edits-conflict-warning and in the preview field there is the old unchanged version. This happens with every article (as far as tested) independently whether that respective article being edited by someone else or not. Writing a new article works, trying to edit it just afterwards leads to the described problem. Already did a rebuildall which took all night (2500 articles), but the problem remains the same. Is that something known and what am I missing here? Greetings Philipp

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Webservices API
by Jimmy Wales 10 Jul '05

10 Jul '05

It seems that a lot of people are excited about the concept of KDE integration (and of course integration beyond that), and I am thinking that we should start to think now a little bit about the load on the webservers and how to manage it. My thought is that a well behaved application should produce no more load than people surfing our site with a traditional browser. But it is possible (likely, even) that some applications will not be well-behaved. If we have a single generic interface where everyone pulls in exactly the same way, then we have no way to block abusive applications without blocking everyone. Something as simple as requiring a "user agent" string might be enough? This issue is quite similar to the issue of people pulling pages from our site "live" to make a mirror. It's not a good thing to do if done abusively. But with web hosts, it is easy enough to simply block them if they misbehave. A misbehaving application will come in through many ip numbers. I have been thinking a little bit as well about a model with full blown keys (like the Google API) -- the point could be that for free software, we can give out free keys and support those users at our own expense. But for proprietary software, we can charge money for the keys. Anyone who doesn't want to pay can still get the database dumps from time to time. --Jimbo

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Upgrade status
by Brion Vibber 06 Jul '05

06 Jul '05

I've upgraded the 'Nostalgia Wikipedia', a copy of the English Wikipedia database from December 2001, to MediaWiki 1.5 as an initial test of our upgrade infrastructure: http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version (Editing is disabled, and it's running the nostalgia skin, so you can look but not touch. :) We'll be hitting a few more over the next few hours, including Commons. After some more live testing to work out kinks, the remaining wikis will get upgraded bit by bit over the coming days. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Time to get some new servers
by Camille Constans 04 Jul '05

04 Jul '05

Hello, As wikipedia is slow at the busy time, I propose to get some new servers for our cluster. - Some new web servers(3 or 4), P4 2,8Ghz with 2Go of RAM - A server which could be a backup for nfs server, zwinger, with bigger disk, 80Go is very low, maybe 200 or 250Go - Upgrading disk of zwinger to 200 or 250Go (or add a new one) - A db server in 64 bits mode with 4Go of RAM (if we cant make working geoffrin), like this one : http://www.macomp.com/products/servers/patriot2200.asp With raid 10 disk system, 4 or 6 drives in raid and 1 stand-by. I prefer 15000rpm disk, but I can understand that they are more expensive - Maybe another squid server What do you think of that ? Shaihulud

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Support for vertical scripts
by Mark Williamson 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

Hi all As you may or may not already know, Mongolian is one of the few languages in the world that is written vertically _all_ the time (Japanese, Chinese, and a few others can be written vertically, but they can also be written horizontally). Although Outer Mongolia (ie, the independent nation, as opposed the Inner Mongolia which is currently administered by the People's Republic of China) switched decades ago to the Cyrillic script for Mongolian (due to pressure from their favourite ally and neighbour, the USSR), since 1994 great efforts have been made to reintroduce the Mongolian script. Many Outer Mongolians can read it, and it's being taught in schools now. Inner Mongolia never switched scripts: it has used Mongolian script continuously now since its emergence. Now, the issue here isn't which script to use as that can be worked out later. The issue here is how we would organise a vertical website. W3C standards spell out how to make vertical text properly using HTML. However, this isn't supported by all browsers (Firefox, for one, doesn't support it). Also, since the user interface is designed for languages that are written horizontally, it may be difficult to adapt to Mongolian. The typical solution is to flip EVERYTHING 90 degrees counterclockwise. A representation of what a proper implementation of Mongolian script protocols on mn.wiki should look like can be found here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Mongolian_wikipedia_prev… (it's pretty neat, actually) Mark PS For what it's worth, it's top-to-bottom, left-to-right. -- SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIVM ERVDITIONIS HABES QVANTVM MATERIAE MATERIETVR MARMOTA MONAX SI MARMOTA MONAX MATERIAM POSSIT MATERIARI ESTNE VOLVMEN IN TOGA AN SOLVM TIBI LIBET ME VIDERE -- SI HOC LEGERE SCIS NIMIVM ERVDITIONIS HABES QVANTVM MATERIAE MATERIETVR MARMOTA MONAX SI MARMOTA MONAX MATERIAM POSSIT MATERIARI ESTNE VOLVMEN IN TOGA AN SOLVM TIBI LIBET ME VIDERE

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en.wiktionary.org temporarily broken
by Brion Vibber 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

Someone has changed the $wgCapitalLinks setting on en.wiktionary.org, causing many thousands of links to break without warning -- far too many for humans to fix up in a reasonable amount of time. I'm really, really, really annoyed about this, and I'd appreciate it if whoever made this premature change would at least confess to the deed. Right now I'm working on an automated script to fix up the links. This change should *not* have been made before this script was reaady. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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WikiMedia Error
by john kaczmarowski 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

I recently installed WikiMedia code base on a Windows system and it has been running quite well for the past 2-3 months. Today, I modified (for about the 10th time) the DefaultSettings.php file in the Includes directory so that I could upload a .exe file (yes, trouble, but this is in a relatively secure environment). Anyway, the exe was a flash demo that I was attaching to a wiki page. The upload was over 5MB (I've successfully uploaded as much as a MB or 2, but not more). When the upload was completed, I started to get a LOT of problems with the wiki, to wit: 1. Any page not cached in memory returns blank (not edit mode, just blank). Specifically: <html><body></body></html> 2. Any special page request (edit, discuss, history) returns blank, specifically <html><body></body></html> 3. I do not have direct access to the wiki server to do a reboot (its in my house, and I'm in another state). Any ideas on how to jump-start my wiki? kacz

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Search mechanism
by Phil Boswell 30 Jun '05

30 Jun '05

I am having trouble understanding how the search mechanism prioritises results. One would assume that a search for _Dark brown_ (ie just the words, no quotes involved) would result in a list topped by the article [[Dark brown]]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Dark+brown&fulltext=Sear… It's not even in the first 50! And surrounding it with quotes does not help. Is [[Wikipedia:Searching]] current? I couldn't find anything on there to help, although I'm having a quick squirrel through the linked document at MySQL. -- Phil [[en:User:Phil Boswell]]

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