Hi,
the hosting service I'm using has PHP as CGI, and supports pathinfo.
But there are several places in MediaWiki saying/assuming PATH_INFO
does not work in CGI-based configurations.
Anything I missed?
If not, the detection of the server capabilities should be improved.
At least, there should be a wgUsePathInfo entry in LocalSettings.php
along with some explanation.
Oliver
--
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Hello,
I want to setup up a number of websites which share a single
wiki underneath. The only difference between the websites
will be:
* The URI used to access the website
* The main page
* The navigation links
For instance:
I want to be able to have two websites with the following
navigation links:
marrickville.community.org:
Main page -> Marrickville community
News -> News at Marrickville
Events -> Events at Marrickville
bankstown.community.org:
Main page -> Bankstown community
News -> News at Bankstown
Events -> Events at Bankstown
But, I want both websites to use the same wiki, so that they can
share pages, and have the same sign on.
Is it possible, and how much work is involved in configuring
such a wiki?
Thanks
-John
So, I got interested a few days ago in the question of how many
Wikitravel contributors start editing a page but bail out before
completing their edit. I started combing the Apache logs for some
answers.
wikitravel.org's robots.txt hides editing pages, but there are some
non-compliant spiders that still follow edit links; some even mask their
identity with a fake User-Agent header.
Still, I can say with some confidence that of non-spider hits on our
edit pages, only about 25% result in a "submit" post afterwards.
Although I think there are a lot of people who click "edit" without the
idea of seriously contributing (the aforementioned spiders; people who
are curious to see what will happen; people who hit edit by mistake),
this still seems quite high.
I'm wondering if anyone has similar statistics for other Mediawiki
sites, other wiki-engine sites, and specifically for Wikimedia sites.
I'd like to get a comparison to see what we can do on Wikitravel to cut
down on these bailouts and help people finish their contributions; a
rough idea of what rate of bailing out other sites get would be helpful
for that.
Thanks,
~Evan
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Sitemaps are XML lists of all the pages in a website. We also
provide the last-modified timestamp for each page and a
"priority". We use a high priority for articles and lower
priorities for the other namespaces.
In mapping.txt there's a mapping from website name to the URL
of the sitemap. The sitemaps are split by namespace, so if
you're only interested in one namespace, you can get it without
downloading the rest of the files.
A descirption of the XML schema is available
at
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/login?sourceid=gsm&subid=us-et-ab…
If your application uses our sitemaps we'd be happy to hear about
it.
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Hi all,
Is there a way to add paramaters to the _URL_ of an RSS feed for
recent changes pages to exclude certain types of edits, such as
additions to logs (creation of user acc'ts, or hiding minor edits, for
example)?
I'd greatly appreciate this.
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Mindspillage wrote:
>On 11/2/05, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Might I suggest an additional feature for mediawiki? How about
>> [{here}] which becomes a difflink to the edit where that tag was
>> inserted? People could add that to their signatures and thus every
>> post of their would be equipped to a handy difflink to an original
>> version.
>I wouldn't mind seeing the timestamp on signatures be a diff link ,
>actually: makes it easy to see what was originally posted and doesn't
>add more to the standard sig.
Thoroughly excellent idea! (Does an edit know what its revision ID is
going to be while it's saving?)
- d.
The entry on
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_delete_a_user_from_my…
says
"MediaWiki does not support the deletion of user accounts. To prevent an
account from being used, either scramble the password or set up an
indefinite block on the account.
Do not remove users from the user table in the mySQL database; this
causes problems with other parts of the wiki due to the relational
structure of the database."
My question:
is the last sentence "Do no remove ..." still valid and important ?
Hi
I am using Mediawiki 1.5.1, and I Imported my entire collection of pages in
XML. Now, Special:Whatlinkshere does not show any pages on many of those
which I've tested. Is this a bug? Can the whatlinkshere database be flushed
somehow?
Many thanks.
On 11/4/05, wikitech-l-request(a)wikimedia.org
<wikitech-l-request(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
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> 1. Re: Re: [WikiEN-l] Ratings again (Ray Saintonge)
> 2. still active: www.tocatch.info (?? ???)
> 3. Re: rcid in default sig? (was LiquidThreads) (Rowan Collins)
> 4. Re: rcid in default sig? (was LiquidThreads) (Rowan Collins)
> 5. Re: Edit bailouts (Tim Starling)
> 6. Re: Fwd:Shock site bot (Brian)
> 7. Re: Re: LiquidThreads (David Reynolds)
> 8. Re: still active: www.tocatch.info (Brion Vibber)
> 9. Re: Re: Edit bailouts (Angela)
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 12:05:15 -0800
> From: Ray Saintonge <saintonge(a)telus.net>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: [WikiEN-l] Ratings again
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <436A6D7B.4010609(a)telus.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> David Gerard wrote:
>
> >Ray Saintonge wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Magnus Manske wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>I still prefer a 0-10 range of ratings. I think a decimal
> >>>normalization would be easier to work with in any subsequent analysis
> >>>of results.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>One can set the range for each topic individually.
> >>
> >>
> >Mmm. See discussion at [[m:En validation topics]] and its archive -
> >too many choices of rating is probably a bad thing, because it's hard
> >to agree what a given value means. The test plan so far includes
> >probably far more variables than we'd want in any case ...
> >
> >
> The only variable is the individual subjective valuation of the
> article. The number of points in the range are not different variables,
> but different values for the same variable. To a large extent the size
> of the range is arbitrary because one range can be changed to another by
> a simple multiplication with a constant. What's the difference between
> a value of 3 on a 1-5 scale and a value of 5 on a 0-10 range?
>
> Since the value which an individual gives to an article is essentially
> subjective there is no reliable way to define the ratings that can be
> given. Statistical results tend to be self-normalizing.
>
> Ec
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:08:45 +0900 (JST)
> From: ?? ??? <wikiwatcher(a)yahoo.co.jp>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] still active: www.tocatch.info
> To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <20051103070845.15521.qmail(a)web3108.mail.bbt.yahoo.co.jp>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp
>
> Hello again,
>
> I just wanted to say the site "www.tocatch.info" is still
> active and is STEALING the Wikipedia content as a live
> mirror (proxy).
>
> Please, if this is the wrong place to report this, where
> can I report it?
>
> On Sunday 30 October 2005 17:00, 田中 万太郎 wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > a www.tocatch.info appears to be mirroring various
> > Wikipedias live, examples:
> >
> > http://www.tocatch.info/en/Special:Recentchanges.htm
> > (ENGLISH)
> > http://www.tocatch.info/ja/Special:Recentchanges.htm
> > (JAPANESE)
> >
> > Thankyou
>
> TANAKA
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:23:13 +0000
> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] rcid in default sig? (was LiquidThreads)
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0511031523x1ba42fcev(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> te:On 03/11/05, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mindspillage wrote:
> > >On 11/2/05, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Might I suggest an additional feature for mediawiki? How about
> > >> [{here}] which becomes a difflink to the edit where that tag was
> > >> inserted? People could add that to their signatures and thus every
> > >> post of their would be equipped to a handy difflink to an original
> > >> version.
> >
> > >I wouldn't mind seeing the timestamp on signatures be a diff link ,
> > >actually: makes it easy to see what was originally posted and doesn't
> > >add more to the standard sig.
> >
> > Thoroughly excellent idea! (Does an edit know what its revision ID is
> > going to be while it's saving?)
>
> I'd been pondering this myself recently, but it looks like it doesn't
> - and probably can't - know its ID soon enough. Not only does the
> Revision object not get an ID until the insert function (obviously too
> late for text manipulation) but it has to actually be saved in MySQL
> for the autoincrement field to autoincrement.
>
> But having spent ages looking at that, I remember that we have
> functions for doing diffs based on "next revision after this". So,
> it's not pretty, but presumably a pre save transform (e.g. a
> signature) could embed a link to a diff between the revision *before*
> itself and "whatever revision comes next" - which in all but the
> oddest cases will be the revision you're in the middle of saving...
> So, sort of like "/index.php?oldid=$lastrevision&direction=next" where
> $lastrevision is the latest revision actually *saved* of that page.
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:36:42 +0000
> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] rcid in default sig? (was LiquidThreads)
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0511031536h3601a1e5x(a)mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 03/11/05, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 11/3/05, Angela <beesley(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It only sounds a good idea if these links are not going to show up in
> > > the edit text or in diffs. Signatures are getting bad enough now with
> > > all the <font>s and <big style="flashing nonsense"> </html> junk in
> > > them. I wouldn't want to read an edit page where full URLs appeared
> > > after every comment.
>
> Hm, I admit I hadn't thought of that...
>
> > I agree that difflinks are long an ugly. Perhaps it's come time for a
> > special difflink syntax which is nice and compact?
>
> Well, they could be made pretty compact just using templates (or, more
> sanely, a built-in "variable"). It seems you need the article name
> when using relative diffs (see my previous message), so a template
> "nextdiff" of the form:
>
> [{{fullurl:{{PAGENAME}}|diff=next|oldid={{{1}}}}} {{{2}}}]
>
> (first parameter is the pre-change revision, the second the text to
> display as the link) could appear in the wikisource as:
>
> {{nextdiff|21221469|Diff}}
>
> Make this an inbuilt variable for portability and performance, and
> combine it with the idea someone mentionned of linking the date in the
> signature (or part of it?) and it ought not to be too intrusive, I
> think.
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 11:37:20 +1100
> From: Tim Starling <t.starling(a)physics.unimelb.edu.au>
> Subject: [Wikitech-l] Re: Edit bailouts
> To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <dkeafq$mi9$1(a)sea.gmane.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Evan Prodromou wrote:
> > I guess there's not an easy way to find out how many people are bailing
> > out of edits that they really want to make... except maybe to ask them.
> > Perhaps a pop-up poll for folks who navigate away from an edit page in
> > some way besides saving? Kind of intrusive but it might have interesting
> > results.
>
> You could tell the difference between red link clicks and edit tab clicks by
> checking the referrer, or by adding an extra parameter to the URL. Detecting
> when the user starts typing with javascript could be another measure,
> although some might consider that sort of thing to be an invasion of
> privacy. It would certainly be an invasion of privacy to send text from the
> edit box to the server before the user clicks "save", unless they are warned
> in advance.
>
> -- Tim Starling
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:18:33 -0500
> From: Brian <brian0918(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd:Shock site bot
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Cc: brett.gustafson(a)gmail.com, Wikitech-L <wikitech-l(a)wikipedia.org>
> Message-ID: <43699DA9.1040205(a)gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I do know of one anon that has refused to start an account and has
> contributed extensively to evolution/species-related articles. He has
> turned his user page into a detailed watchlist (linked below; each of
> those dots is a watched page). He also appears to grasp policy and
> guidelines more than most Wikipedians. Check out an old copyedit of
> his:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Lakes_Storm_of_1913&diff=10…
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:68.81.231.127
>
> Several people have pleaded on his talk page for him to start an account.
>
>
> SJ wrote:
>
> >Forwarded from Wikien-l.
> >
> >I wonder if it would be useful to have an index of external URLs that
> >supports throttling of the # of times per day a given base URL can be
> >added to WP sites...
> >
> >SJ
> >
> >
> >PS - this is my favorite part -- "I'm a regular wikipedia user
> >although i don't have an account here" I wonder how many people
> >consider themselves 'regular uers' -- and how many of those actually
> >read user and policy pages...
> >
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >From: Brett Gustafson <brett.gustafson(a)gmail.com>
> >Date: Nov 2, 2005 7:22 PM
> >Subject: [WikiEN-l] Shock site bot
> >To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org
> >
> >
> >I recently recieved this message from a user:
> >"I'm a regular wikipedia user although i don't have an account here. I think
> >this site is great and it really helps me with my college work. But I
> >recently heard of these people that were talking about wikipedia that they
> >were all programming a hack for it. So after a little while I found it was a
> >spider to hunt down all the pages links and change them to shocks site links
> >or something along those lines. I didn't know who to tell so I just thought
> >I'd tell an administrator as they might know who to tell or what to do. Just
> >giving an advanced warning so you might be able to do something to protect
> >this wonderful resourse. Apparently they permenantly change their ip address
> >using some thing (a bit beyond me). Something like that. I just didn't know
> >what to do. I hope I didn't embaress myself here. Thanks for your time."
> >
> >Brett
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> >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
> >
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:21:06 -0600
> From: David Reynolds <naeblis(a)kc.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: LiquidThreads
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <436AA972.6080100(a)kc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Ivan Krstic wrote:
> > Timwi wrote:
> >
> >>Secondarily I want to be able to fix spellings, in the faint hope that
> >>it will help some people learn better spelling. Again, the only people
> >>who would object to this would be people who can't spell and are
> >>therefore unsuitable for writing an encyclopedia anyway.
> >
> >
> > Totally broken reasoning.
> >
> >
> >>I've heard many reasons for maliciously changing an article. Yet
> >>articles on Wikipedia tend to get better. Interesting, innit?
> >
> >
> > That's an irrelevant non-answer to Ryan's question.
> >
> >
> >>No, the purpose of this was to test your reaction. You fell right for it
> >>exactly the way I expected: you picked up only on the emotional side of
> >>the paragraph (taking it as an insult)
> >
> >
> > Do you understand how conceited this makes you sound?
> >
> >
> >>And this highlights what I mean: you (and many other people) only object
> >>to being able to edit comments because it somehow "feels" wrong. You
> >>can't really say why it *is* wrong.
> >
> >
> > You need to relax, and start spending less time writing
> > borderline-offensive e-mail to people who are trying to reason
> > constructively, and more time thinking about what they're saying. I can
> > tell you exactly why it *is* wrong: comments are not Wikipedia articles,
> > even if you seem to be constantly confounding the two.
> >
> > A Wikipedia article isn't signed by a single person's name. It doesn't
> > represent the views of an individual, but tries to become an objective
> > reflection of its topic. As Brion puts it, a wiki is a place where you
> > let wackos edit your site, and with luck, the good wackos outnumber the
> > bad. The iterative editing process is a good way to ensure eventual NPOV
> > conformance.
> >
> > Comments are absolutely different. They are written and signed by a
> > single person, represent only that person's views, have no requirement
> > of adherence to a NPOV, and that means that essentially none of the
> > reasons that Wikipedia articles are editable by everyone apply to them.
> > If allowing comment cross-editing was in any way beneficial, the popular
> > web-based discussion forums with tens of millions of posts would have,
> > without a doubt, adopted such a model quite a while ago. There's a
> > reason they haven't done it.
> >
> > I am not interested in continuing this discussion further, so please
> > refrain from writing a snide reply that questions my intelligence so as
> > to "test my reaction".
> >
>
> Agreed. This discussion has degenerated, on Timwi's side at least, to ad
> hominem attacks and straw man arguments. Why do you persist in saying
> that opinions on talk pages have the same ownership/POV claims as
> articles in mainspace?
>
> David, new but dismayed
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:09:32 -0800
> From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] still active: www.tocatch.info
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <436AB4CC.1020004(a)pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp"
>
> 田中 万太郎 wrote:
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I just wanted to say the site "www.tocatch.info" is still
> > active and is STEALING the Wikipedia content as a live
> > mirror (proxy).
>
> Killed it.
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>