Wikitech-l November 2005

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Ratings again (was: Oour quality could rival Encyclopedia Britannica)
by David Gerard 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

[cc'ed from thread on wikien-l to wikitech-l] On wikien-l, Neil Harris wrote: >charles matthews wrote: >> But I think we know all this. To return to Toynbee, it is more a >> question of how to get Wikipedians to 'feel challenged', on the >> specifics. Right now, with the site running slow, the main practical >> challenge seems to be hardward/developers/cash. _I_ mostly feel >> challenged by the sheer breadth of approach needed. >At the risk of being tedious, >article rating >article rating >article rating >article rating >article rating Brion, what would it take to get article rating switched on? Is there any such feature you would allow in, or is it basically off the agenda and I should stop asking? - d.

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still active: www.tocatch.info
by 田中万太郎 04 Nov '05

04 Nov '05

Hello again, I just wanted to say the site "www.tocatch.info" is still active and is STEALING the Wikipedia content as a live mirror (proxy). Please, if this is the wrong place to report this, where can I report it? On Sunday 30 October 2005 17:00, 田中万太郎 wrote: > Hello > > a www.tocatch.info appears to be mirroring various > Wikipedias live, examples: > > http://www.tocatch.info/en/Special:Recentchanges.htm > (ENGLISH) > http://www.tocatch.info/ja/Special:Recentchanges.htm > (JAPANESE) > > Thankyou TANAKA -------------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail - supported by 10million people http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/10m/

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RE: [Wikitech-l] One wiki, multiple websites
by Bass, Joshua L 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

It is possible: http://www.gtr-tech.com/gtrwiki/Main_Page http://www.350z-tech.com/ztrwiki/Main_Page Just point them to the same database, but you will have to have the correct url in your LocalSettings.php for each site. As far as different navigation links, that could be done manually in the skin. -----Original Message----- From: wikitech-l-bounces(a)wikimedia.org [mailto:wikitech-l-bounces@wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of John Ky Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:06 AM To: wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikitech-l] One wiki, multiple websites Hello, I want to setup up a number of websites which share a single wiki underneath. The only difference between the websites will be: * The URI used to access the website * The main page * The navigation links Is it possible, and how much work is involved in configuring such a wiki. Thanks -John _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

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Template:Itn on zh.wp can't protected
by shizhao 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Template:Itn on zh.wp, http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Itn it already protected, but anonymous user however can edit. other protected pages without this problem. Otherwise, Blocked anonymous user however can edit Template:Itn. [[zh:user:shizhao]]

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Re: [WikiEN-l] Ratings again
by David Gerard 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Ray Saintonge wrote: > Magnus Manske wrote: >> I still prefer a 0-10 range of ratings. I think a decimal >> normalization would be easier to work with in any subsequent analysis >> of results. >One can set the range for each topic individually. Mmm. See discussion at [[m:En validation topics]] and its archive - too many choices of rating is probably a bad thing, because it's hard to agree what a given value means. The test plan so far includes probably far more variables than we'd want in any case ... - d.

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Indexing Wikisource
by Lars Aronsson 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

As I have reported earlier on wikide-l and wikipedia-l, I digitized two small encyclopedias in September and early October, one in German and one in English, and made them available on Wikisource for proofreading and reference. Every book page has a wiki subpage of its own, presenting the scanned image and the OCR text. Since then I have monitored how fast Google has been to index these titles. More than half of the German pages were indexed within a few weeks, which is in line with my experience of how fast Google can be. But to my surprise, only very few of the English pages have yet been indexed. It was only this summer that wikisource.org was split into language subdomains like de.wikisource.org and en.wikisource.org, so it is understandable that pages in the new subdomains still have a low Google rank. However, this is the same for all languages, and doesn't explain the difference that I see between the German and the English language subdomain. Today de.wikisource.org reports to having 2311 articles and 4638 pages. A word that occurs on every page is "letzte" ("recent" in Recent Changes) and Google gives 770 hits for the search http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ade.wikisource.org+letzte Of the 4638 pages, 443 are subpages to http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Meyers_Blitz-Lexikon and Google finds 418 of them, http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ade.wikisource.org+%22Meyers+Blitz-Lex… This means 17% of the de.wikisource pages are indexed, but 94% of the pages from the book I scanned. En.wikisource.org today has 19,006 articles and 23,780 total pages. A word that occurs on every page is "recent" and Google givs 12,500 hits for the query http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aen.wikisource.org+recent Of the 23,780 pages, 2791 are subpages to http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_New_Student%27s_Reference_Work but Google only finds 4 of them, http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aen.wikisource.org+%22The+New+Student%… This means 53% of en.wikisource.org articles are indexed, but only 0.14 % of the book pages I scanned. I can understand that some enthusiastic Germans have linked to "Meyers Blitz-Lexikon" and increased its Google rank. But it also seems that there is a negative Google rank for "The New Student's Reference Work". Has it been trapped in some spam filter? -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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How actually usable are audio captchas?
by David Gerard 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

With various discussions around Wikipedia of captchas to impede vandalbots, I was wondering how usable audio captchas actually are for those who can't see images. Most sites with visual captchas offer an audio option ... but what's the actual usability of these? Are they a minor impediment, as a visual captcha is, or a major usability problem? Is there data on this? - d.

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Fwd:Shock site bot
by SJ 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

Forwarded from Wikien-l. I wonder if it would be useful to have an index of external URLs that supports throttling of the # of times per day a given base URL can be added to WP sites... SJ PS - this is my favorite part -- "I'm a regular wikipedia user although i don't have an account here" I wonder how many people consider themselves 'regular uers' -- and how many of those actually read user and policy pages... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brett Gustafson <brett.gustafson(a)gmail.com> Date: Nov 2, 2005 7:22 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] Shock site bot To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org I recently recieved this message from a user: "I'm a regular wikipedia user although i don't have an account here. I think this site is great and it really helps me with my college work. But I recently heard of these people that were talking about wikipedia that they were all programming a hack for it. So after a little while I found it was a spider to hunt down all the pages links and change them to shocks site links or something along those lines. I didn't know who to tell so I just thought I'd tell an administrator as they might know who to tell or what to do. Just giving an advanced warning so you might be able to do something to protect this wonderful resourse. Apparently they permenantly change their ip address using some thing (a bit beyond me). Something like that. I just didn't know what to do. I hope I didn't embaress myself here. Thanks for your time." Brett _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l -- ++SJ

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MediaWiki 1.5.2, 1.4.12, 1.3.18 released
by Brion Vibber 03 Nov '05

03 Nov '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 MediaWiki 1.5.2 is a bugfix maintenance release. A change in PHP 4.4.1 and PHP 5.1.0RC broke handling of extension and <pre> sections, causing garbage data to be inserted in output and saved edits. This version works around the change. Several other glitches with MySQL 5.0 and PHP 5.0.5 were also fixed; see the change log below for a complete list. 1.4.12 and 1.3.18 include the PHP 4.4.1 fix as well as the Internet Explorer CSS JavaScript injection fixes from 1.5.1. Release notes: 1.5.2 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=368103 1.4.12 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=368102 1.3.18 http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=368101 Download: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.5.2.tar.gz?download http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.4.12.tar.gz?downlo… http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.3.18.tar.gz?downlo… MD5 checksums: 3aedde46937494bc21a5e493ea6a8ffd mediawiki-1.5.2.tar.gz 246aa2a830b63f5be48fc7ad499fc3ca mediawiki-1.4.12.tar.gz 7fb4100839ff5ab2ea9e2e86c0bd9aa0 mediawiki-1.3.18.tar.gz SHA-1 checksums: 6fd9519d102e1954997774e50bd95d490f03778f mediawiki-1.5.2.tar.gz 9ff1222d168241f2dc06ef4e91420d8cb4ca348e mediawiki-1.4.12.tar.gz 75258724080311ac1938468c0a9bfd39128c2b1a mediawiki-1.3.18.tar.gz Before asking for help, try the FAQ: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ Low-traffic release announcements mailing list: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce Wiki admin help mailing list: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l Bug report system: http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ Play "stump the developers" live on IRC: #mediawiki on irc.freenode.net - -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ wikimedia.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDaYaZwRnhpk1wk44RAk1/AKDJNzPwKtRRqUwH0xKD/uVOt4ts3ACg0Ppv v/IjZdihGSWwfp+wYa2py0A= =e7o6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Requests for bot status
by Dariusz Siedlecki 02 Nov '05

02 Nov '05

Just wanted to notify the Wikimedia community, that [[Requests for bot status]] on Meta was created a few minutes ago. Of course, [[Requests for permissions]] is still active - please put all the requests for sysop/bureaucrat status on that page. Nothing has changed with the current bot policy besides that. Please update the local request pages on your Wikis to reflect the page change on Meta. -- Pozdrawiam, Dariusz "Datrio" Siedlecki

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