Wikitech-l September 2004

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The darned template 5-includes limit problem
by Brion Vibber 04 Sep '04

04 Sep '04

I'm sick and tired of hearing about this. Increasing the limit won't stop it since then people will complain about that limit too. As far as I know the recursion protection was changed to work differently in 1.4 so there is not a hard number limit. Can someone confirm, and is it a simple change to port to 1.3 or not? -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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Changes to the skin system
by Ashar Voultoiz 04 Sep '04

04 Sep '04

Hello, I am currently rewriting the skin system. The aim is to provide our users to easily install a new skin. I commited a big design change this night: * Skin.php and SkinPHPTal.php stay in /includes/ as all skins depends on them. * SkinCologneBlue.php, SkinNostalgia.php, SkinStandard.php, SkinWikimediaWiki.php + class calls in SkinPHPTal.php are moved under /skins/ directory. My next steps other the next days will be to move /stylesheets/ and /templates/ in the skin directory and build the skin detector :o) Once my code is finished, skin designer will just have to zip a tree like: / -- skinname.php // php class -- skinname.xml // PHPTal template -- skinname/ \-- bla.css \-- IEFixes.css \-- picture*.png Then a end user will just have to unzip the skin designer file to the /skin/ directory and the new skin will be available :o) -- Ashar Voultoiz

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Converting to UTF-code
by Gerard Meijssen 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

Hoi, After analysing how to parse the text version of a GEMET list, I decided to also have a look at the html code. The reason was that the Russian, Bulgarian, Greek characters became unreadable. The HTML can be read as well as the codes are changed to be in the pre-UTF format (eg ыш etc). It can therefore be parsed, eventually I could upload it to wiktionary. The question is how do I convert it to UTF-8?? A question about the UTF-8 conversion, is it possible to have a bot convert the non UTF-8 stuff to UTF-8 on en:wiktionary ?? Thanks, GerardM

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RE: [Wikitech-l] better search engine for MediaWiki?
by Domas Mituzas 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

In my PostgreSQL efforts, I'm also playing with OpenFTS, the postgresql GiST based full-text search index. It is faster on updates (real time updating possible), and quite fast. I need to make several benchmarks. It could be used either in PostgreSQL-only wiki, or with combination of MySQL (as external searchindex table). Cheers, Domas

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New serious bug in section editing?
by Alfio Puglisi 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

It happened to me a couple of times today, but I dismissed it as an error of mine. While looking at recent changes, i saw it happened some more times to different users. When one edits a section of a long article, upon saving the page a big portion of the article (sometimes everything from that section down to the end) gets replicated, and you end up with an article twice as long. Saw it also on it:Wikipedia:Bar, the equivalent of the english Village Pump. Went from 120 KB to 240 KB in a single edit that inserted an entire copy of the Bar inside a comment. See for example this edit (image maintenance page): http://it.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Immagini_da_verificare… User:Painlord2k was just trying to remove the [[:Image:Torvalds1.jpg]] at the end, but the entire 134-items list in the previous section was duplicated, and the article got twice as long! Alfio

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Re: phase3/includes Defines.php, 1.7, 1.8 Article.php, 1.216, 1.217
by Timwi 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

Ashar Voultoiz wrote: > /**#@+ > ! /**#@- */ What do these mean?

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Header numbers
by Alfio Puglisi 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

Hello, every now and then I see rendered ==headers== with numbers. That is, the same number scheme applied to the TOC: 1 this 2 that 2.1 the other will appear on also on the subsequent text: 1 this --------- (paragraph) 2 that --------- (paragraph) 2.1 the other (paragraph) Before I file a bug report, is this expected behaviour during some operations? cache updates? I noticed this on it: and don't know if it happens on en: and other languages too. Alfio

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Please change the maximum number of times a template can be included from 5 to 10
by Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

The french have complained about this before as they use a template in front of every external link. But i'll do it again here. On is. we have a template called Mynd (The name of the Image namespace) which we use in the following way: {{Mynd|http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/thumb/1/1f/300px-Mahameru-volcano.jpg|right|300px|[[Mahameru]] eldfjalli á [[eyja|eyjunni]] [[Java]] í [[Indónesía|Indónesíu]]}} Where we would otherwise do: [[Mynd:Mahameru-volcano.jpg|thumb|right|300px|[[Mahameru]] eldfjalli á [[eyja|eyjunni]] [[Java]] í [[Indónesía|Indónesíu]]]] However this means we have to have to use Snið:Mynd2 for images 6..10 which doesnt look pretty in the source. Could you please change the maximum number of times a template can be included from 5 to 10? 10 would be more than enaugh i think.

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Recent Changes view problem (diff) (hist) ...
by Thomas Gries 03 Sep '04

03 Sep '04

The "(diff)" links on my recent changes RC views on all of my wikis are not working, I mean they link to the difference of "current version" MINUS "current version", which is zero of course Example content of "(diff)" links in RC view http://myserver/mywiki/index.php?title=Main_page&curid=605&diff=1217&oldid=… I have this since I migrated in the normal way i.e. running the scripts and following the instructions from 1.2.6 to 1.3.1 . The freshly installed 1.3.2 has the same problems. Can someone help me ?

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RFC article on the use of templates in wiktionary
by Gerard Meijssen 02 Sep '04

02 Sep '04

Hoi, I have written http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_templates_in_Wiktionary to explain how the system with templates works in nl:wiktionary. I have written it now because of the GEMET data that will be copied in propably many wiktionaries. The system described works. It is however a kludge to be used untill there is a better way of doing the things that are tried to achieve. The article is particularly written for Sabine Cretella and Jimbo Wales. I promissed Jimbo last Saturday to try to explain it better. Thanks, Gerard

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