I would be happy to ask money to Wikimedia France. But right now, I don't
know what is the most important thing to develop on Wikisource. It's
clearly not Annotation and TEI. If it is Epub or OCR. Could someone
describe what do you need ? An idea of the cost would be great, but just
few sentences describing the project would be useful.
Pyb
2014-11-26 13:25 GMT+01:00 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com>om>:
I don't think that money is "strictly"
the problem.
I just think that if sister projects (well, I'll talk about Wikisource
here) would be "in the minds" of developers and project managers, they
would really scale.
I mean: the WMF thinks all the time about Wikipedia.
They have staff on it who thinks about software maintenance, software
development, editor retention, GLAM relationships, and I could go on and
on.
Why sister project do not fit in *any* of this?
*Everything* which has been done on Wikisource has been done by volunteers
(sometime by the chapters).
All the crucial software developments I know (the proofread page, for
example) has been done by ThomasV, Tpt, Phe (I personally don't know
others).
The community recently thought about Google Summer of Codes to have people
deveops tools and piece of software. They do, but then it's almost
impossible to really integrate them in the main software, so they are left
there.
The Individual Engagement Grant that me and David did was simply aimed to
gather the community and try to do things together, spread the good ideas,
join scattered individuals and communities.
We had some results, that the WMF could take and build upon (think about
the survey).
I'm getting a little tired, every year at Wikimania, to hear the same
praise of Wikisource by WMF Board or Staff but being told that we are
"supported" but not in the "priority list".
I would think that there are some many low hanging fruits that donors
money would be well spent (ie. the Wikisource contest that is running now
on several Wikisources. In Italy, the chapter gave 100 euros for the
prizes, and we gained 4300 proofread pages in a single week (it takes 6
months for the community to get those numbers)).
I'm sorry if I sound like a broken record, but it's my perception that a
minimal effort from the WMF could lead to major results. I still don't
understand why they do not think about that.
Aubrey
PS: I think about the WMF because for chapters is more difficult to step
in and work on core software related matters. Chapters can and do work on
GLAM partnerships, liasons, collaboration, digitization plans. "Local"
stuff. At least, that is my perception (also, as a chapter president).
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Pierre-Yves Beaudouin <
pierre.beaudouin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Again, money is not the problem. Chapters may
probably help Wikisource.
Crowdfunding could also be a solution.
Pyb
2014-11-26 12:38 GMT+01:00 Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>om>:
See
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Staff_
proposal_assessment_form : there seems to still
be an assumption that
Wikipedia is ok by default while everything else needs to be justified.
Nemo
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