Hi guys, I'm in Geneva (with fellow wikimedians) at a OA conference and we are talking *a lot* about Wikisource.
We have found a very high quality publisher of OA books ( http://www.openbookpublishers.com/, released in CC-BY), that would be utmost happy to have their books in Wikisource.
I think the first issue is technical: * do we have a tool that easily takes an EPUB/HTML and convert it in books in Wikisource? I'm thinking now about ns0, not nspage.
I think that if we can take a HTML/EPUB index, and transform it in a draft Wikisource index of links, and upload all the chapters, formatted, we would have done the 90% of an upload of a book.
This would be really important to insert up to date, high quality OA content in Wikisource, easily accessible for Wikipedians too. And, moreover, Open Access books are more relevant to Wikisource than Open Access articles (IMHO).
Aubrey
There is also a this simple pdf to epub converter http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/44395/Conversion-of-PDF-to-EPUB-Format
If it works well, it also should be possible to do a conversion: pdf->epub->html->wikitext
Cheers, Micru
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.comwrote:
Hi guys, I'm in Geneva (with fellow wikimedians) at a OA conference and we are talking *a lot* about Wikisource.
We have found a very high quality publisher of OA books ( http://www.openbookpublishers.com/, released in CC-BY), that would be utmost happy to have their books in Wikisource.
I think the first issue is technical:
- do we have a tool that easily takes an EPUB/HTML and convert it in books
in Wikisource? I'm thinking now about ns0, not nspage.
I think that if we can take a HTML/EPUB index, and transform it in a draft Wikisource index of links, and upload all the chapters, formatted, we would have done the 90% of an upload of a book.
This would be really important to insert up to date, high quality OA content in Wikisource, easily accessible for Wikipedians too. And, moreover, Open Access books are more relevant to Wikisource than Open Access articles (IMHO).
Aubrey
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I cannot see any need to import such books in Wikisource.
Klaus Graf
2013/6/21 David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com:
There is also a this simple pdf to epub converter http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/44395/Conversion-of-PDF-to-EPUB-Format
If it works well, it also should be possible to do a conversion: pdf->epub->html->wikitext
Cheers, Micru
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys, I'm in Geneva (with fellow wikimedians) at a OA conference and we are talking *a lot* about Wikisource.
We have found a very high quality publisher of OA books (http://www.openbookpublishers.com/, released in CC-BY), that would be utmost happy to have their books in Wikisource.
I think the first issue is technical:
- do we have a tool that easily takes an EPUB/HTML and convert it in books
in Wikisource? I'm thinking now about ns0, not nspage.
I think that if we can take a HTML/EPUB index, and transform it in a draft Wikisource index of links, and upload all the chapters, formatted, we would have done the 90% of an upload of a book.
This would be really important to insert up to date, high quality OA content in Wikisource, easily accessible for Wikipedians too. And, moreover, Open Access books are more relevant to Wikisource than Open Access articles (IMHO).
Aubrey
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.comwrote:
I cannot see any need to import such books in Wikisource.
Hi Klaus, why?
Aubrey
My question is, why we should import free modern content which is well hosted in repositories. Because we can simply do it??
Klaus Graf
2013/6/21 Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.com wrote:
I cannot see any need to import such books in Wikisource.
Hi Klaus, why?
Aubrey
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On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Klaus Graf klausgraf@googlemail.comwrote:
My question is, why we should import free modern content which is well hosted in repositories. Because we can simply do it??
I could say kinda the same thing for books that are well hosted in Google Books or Internet Archive... The answer is that "wikisourcify" texts adds value. Otherwise, we shouldn't do that.
My reasons are: * having these texts adds value to Wikisource as a library. It's high quality, academic and free content ** thus, it adds value to Wikipedia. Wikisource and Wikipedia will (I hope) grow in cooperation and crosslinking (wth Wikidata, for example). So having good content in Wikisource could results in having good content in Wikipedia (think about transclusion of quotes, or citations...)
* in Wikisource, you can add links to Wikipedia, or to Wikisource. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Laura_Secord:_A_Study_in_Canadian_Patriotism or http://it.wikisource.org/wiki/Storia_della_letteratura_italiana_(De_Sanctis) In this last example you can see how (via templates) you can create automatic category of citations (by and from)
* I like the idea of Wikisource as a "generalized library", a place for documents, books, texts, grey literature. I like these texts to be hyperlinked and connected, because we can do it, and we are the only ones in the we who can do it. That's a big reason for me.
* I am (as you are) an Open Access advocate, and I see this cooperation between Wikisource and OA books as important and possibily fruitful.
Aubrey
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
There is also a this simple pdf to epub converter http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/44395/Conversion-of-PDF-to-EPUB-Format
If it works well, it also should be possible to do a conversion: pdf->epub->html->wikitext
Well, I already have the EPUB. The publisher gave me for free because they really want the books to be in Wikisource. (and some of them are could really be very good sources for Wikipedia articles, as this CC BY licensed book on Oral Literature: http://www.openbookpublishers.com/reader/186)
We can have their HTML, or their EPUB (which is still HTML with an index). How can we import epub > html > wikitext? I'm not aware of these kind of tools.
Aubrey
On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:40:22 +0200, Andrea Zanni zanni.andrea84@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
There is also a this simple pdf to epub converter
http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/44395/Conversion-of-PDF-to-EPUB-Format
If it works well, it also should be possible to do a conversion: pdf->epub->html->wikitext
Well, I already have the EPUB. The publisher gave me for free because they really want the books to be
in
Wikisource. (and some of them are could really be very good sources for Wikipedia articles, as this CC BY licensed book on Oral Literature: http://www.openbookpublishers.com/reader/186)
We can have their HTML, or their EPUB (which is still HTML with an
index).
How can we import epub > html > wikitext? I'm not aware of these kind of tools.
Aubrey
https://github.com/jric/epubtohtml ???
http://techie-buzz.com/helpdesk/convert-epub-books-pdf-mobi-html-epub-conver... ???
Regards, Billinghurst
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