Hi,
I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced in Bengali Wikisource.
There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used the following code in Page 1:-
<ref> Text of Page 1 reference and <includeonly>text of Page 2 reference</includeonly></ref>
It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace, its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates? Thanks.
Hi,
I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced in Bengali Wikisource.
There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used the following code in Page 1:-
<ref> Text of Page 1 reference and <includeonly>text of Page 2 reference</includeonly></ref>
It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace, its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates? Thanks.
This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use: <ref name="some name>...</ref> and <ref follow="some name">...</ref> on the following page(s), as described here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_singl...
Ankry
Hi Ankry,
It really helped. Problem solved.
Thanks a lot, Bodhisattwa
On 18 January 2016 at 13:07, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Hi,
I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I
faced
in Bengali Wikisource.
There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used the following code in Page 1:-
<ref> Text of Page 1 reference and <includeonly>text of Page 2 reference</includeonly></ref>
It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in
mainspace,
its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates? Thanks.
This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use: <ref name="some name>...</ref> and <ref follow="some name">...</ref> on the following page(s), as described here:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_singl...
Ankry
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English Wikisource has documentation too. See
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Help:Footnotes_and_endnotes
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
-- Billinghurst
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Hi,
I need a template solution for the following proof-reading problem I faced in Bengali Wikisource.
There is a reference in Page 1 which is continued in Page 2. I have used the following code in Page 1:-
<ref> Text of Page 1 reference and <includeonly>text of Page 2 reference</includeonly></ref>
It was okay while proof-reading, but when it was transcluded in mainspace, its not working. There the text of Page 2 reference is not shown.
Can anyone help me with a solution? Do we need some more templates? Thanks.
This is supported by cite extention internally. Just use: <ref name="some name>...</ref> and <ref follow="some name">...</ref> on the following page(s), as described here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite#Merging_two_texts_into_a_singl...
Ankry
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Billinghurst wrote:
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
It happens. See
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
Ankry
I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20. I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both continue to subsequent pages.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Billinghurst wrote:
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
It happens. See
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
Ankry
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See footnotes 15 & 16:
footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17 footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
Ankry
I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20. I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both continue to subsequent pages.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Billinghurst wrote:
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
It happens. See
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
Ankry
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2016-01-18 15:50 GMT+01:00 Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl:
See footnotes 15 & 16:
footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17 footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
Ankry
Oo, that's very « exotic » (at first I didn't see it).
Easy, solid and reliable but a bit bad solution : just put the footnote 16 entirely on the page 16.
More difficult and probably still a bad solution, using noinclude balise on page 16 for footnote 16 and onlyinclude balise on page 17 for a duplicated footnote 16.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
Ah okay. Slightly different situation than I was trying to explain.
That is just butt ugly. I can think of some tricky ways to do it in a presentation space so it sort of is like that, but all ultimately pointless for main namespace. I would simply move it forward a page and add a <!-- rem --> about why in the footer of both pages. Ultimately that is a typesetting matter, not the author's intent, so why waste time going picture perfect.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
See footnotes 15 & 16:
footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17 footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
Ankry
I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20. I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both continue to subsequent pages.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Billinghurst wrote:
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
It happens. See
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
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Each <ref follow=...> is a typesetting matter...
I don't think that introducing the <ref follow=...> continuation method was ever intended to make exact page mirroring in HTML possible. AFAIK it was developed to avoid forcing user to switch between pages while verifying the text.
And yes, I agree that this exammple is rather curiosity than a page design model.
Ankry
Ah okay. Slightly different situation than I was trying to explain.
That is just butt ugly. I can think of some tricky ways to do it in a presentation space so it sort of is like that, but all ultimately pointless for main namespace. I would simply move it forward a page and add a <!-- rem --> about why in the footer of both pages. Ultimately that is a typesetting matter, not the author's intent, so why waste time going picture perfect.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 1:50 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
See footnotes 15 & 16:
footnote 15 starts on page 16 and continues on 17 footnote 16 is referenced at page 16, so it starts as empty footnote on page 16 also and continues on 17 (full footnote text there)
If you can suggest another solution, I will be intrigued.
Ankry
I don't see *two* footnotes start and continue from the one page, I just see one footnote start on 18 to19, and another start on 19 to 20. I don't see see two footnotes continue start on 18 or 19 and both continue to subsequent pages.
-- billinghurst
On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ankry ankry@mif.pg.gda.pl wrote:
Billinghurst wrote:
To note that you can use multiple versions of <ref follow> if the reference carries on. Also to note that you cannot use numbers in the ref name, the extension doesn't play, so at enWS we would usually do something like <ref name ="p56"> where it is the initial page and continue it. I have never seen two footnotes start and continue from the same page, so it is pretty safe.
It happens. See
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
https://pl.wikisource.org/wiki/Strona:Cesarz_Juljan_Apostata_i_jego_satyra_S...
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