Re: [Wikisource-l] quickstatements for missing editions

Yup, still true. We do at least have a common goal of structured HTML, as defined by http://schema.org/CreativeWork It sounds like Tpt's scraper will do wonders, if a Wikisource just complies to that. I think that's one of the next steps we need to take. I sort of figure from the English Wikisource point of view that we should do more on bringing data *in* from Wikidata, in our {{header}}, rather than working on making it easier to extract data *out* with microformats/structured-HTML. Well, we should do both, of course! :-) But my feeling from the process of getting Author data in from Wikidata is that the whole Wikidata integration becomes so much more worthwhile and clearer (and we sort out the various edge cases) when we're actively using it for real. But of course, each Wikisource is in a similar position. :-( And are we to all be developing the Lua scripts and templates in isolation? Indeed no! :-) We shall put them all toegther in our brave new Wikisource extension! :) —sam On Wed, 1 Nov 2017, at 04:03 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: @Sam, Tpt, my personal experience is too that HTML is the way to pull out the Wikisource important metadata, but it's also that every Wikisource has sort of a different way to show them, meaning that you need to tweak your scraper for each Wikisource. Is that still true? Last time I did it was more than one year ago, but I need to try it again soon. Aubrey On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote: Yes I think you're definitely right! The easier way to send Wikisource data to Wikidata is going to be a clever gadget that reads the microformat or schema'd info in each page. My hack was just a quick and easy test at getting some things added. :) Ultimately, I'm actually not that excited about working on the tools that we need to transfer the data. No no I don't mean that! Well, just that the end point we're aiming at is that a bunch of info *won't be* at all in Wikisource, but will be pulled from Wikidata, and so I am much more interested in making better tools for working with the data in Wikidata. :-) If you see what I mean. My idea with ws-search is that it will progressively pull more and more data from Wikidata, and only resort to HTML scraping where the data is missing from Wikidata. I'm attempting to encapsulate this logic in the `wikisource/api` PHP library. On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, at 11:14 PM, Thomas Pellissier Tanon wrote: that a écrit : referring to items like this one example is even better (I totally forgot this kind of case). not sure what this tools can even do for this). _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l *_______________________________________________* Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l