--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Michael Jörgens <joergens.mic(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Michael Jörgens
<joergens.mic(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: [Wikisource-l] Proofreading
To: wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 4:20 PM
ThomasV is working as author, I think
mainly at fr.wikisource.
He has his personal ideas how things have to be
done, there is no communication of him, at least to german
wikisource,
- what things and how he will change them - in advance.
From one day to the next, things which have been
working, doesn't work any longer. Because of
two definite reasons
- The will of the author.
- Bugs in his code. There has been NO update of his
code without bugs!
From the very beginning of his work on his
proofread extension, he tried to exclude everybody he
personal doesn't like.
Especially IP's he dislikes and treats them the
same way as vandals.
There has been at least 3 major updates of his
extension, every time he found new ways to discourage people
to
work with his extension and to complicate the work of
author. Every time we had big discussion with
him after his buggy changes and must find ways to get around
his blocking methods.
We have a lot of texts (thousands of pages)
proofread two times before his extension was
developed.
We try to convert most of them to the proofread
extension. But even Administrators are not
capable of setting a 2 times proofread text to
the ready state. When we begged him to assist us with this
problem
he wasn't willing to, we found away around his
restriction. Now there is an update and we have the same
problems again,an this not by an
accident.
Because when he sees that we find solutions in
the js part which is configurable, he moves more and more of
his SILLY IDEAS
into parts of the code we can't
change.
There has been a lot of experiments to get a
common working interface with ThomasV but he is not willing
to cooperate.
In my opinion it would be very easy, to
incorporate parameters, to give the project the chance to
implement their community
consensus of for example IP editing (including second
proofreading), setting completed pages to the ready state,
...
And to Brigitte SBIt's not so
easy to call take another developer if this one is not
willing to cooperate.
Would it be accepted that there are two different (but
extremely similar) pr extensions, active on all
wiki's?
And I don't think that ThomasV is willing to
accept any consensus which is not according to his way of
thinking
Have a look at the other ws. Has there been any
question of ThomasV what the consensus in this ws is - or is
thereonly his dictate!
Have a look here.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20812
Yes it would be acceptable to have two different but similar extensions on different
Wikisources. It is being done with Flagged Reviosions on Wikipedias. This is the best
way to experiment with different solutions.
With the sort of bad faith accusations you make towards ThomasV, I suggest you start
looking for another developer to assist you. It obvious that you do not trust for
ThomasV. He is a volunteer and not obligated to do whatever you might demand because of
community preferences. It is rather you who are not obligated to use his code if that is
what the community prefers. The update to the code included many things that other people
are happy to have. The idea that updates to ProofreadPage should be stopped on all
Wikisources because one wiki can't get along with the guy who developed the extension
is not practical. No one is forcing de.WS to use ProofreadPage. If you want something
else entirely, no one will stop you from disabling it. If you want to modify ProoreadPage
slightly, it is open source.
Birgitte SB