Few Malayalam wikimedians (http://ml.wikisource.org) have raised this issue
recently.
All the books that we insert in Wikisource are the exact copy of the
original source text. We are not making any derivations in the source text.
So why we cannot allow ND licensed books in Wikisource.
Any thought on this?
Shiju Alex
An interesting question was posed on foundation-l a few minutes ago. (see below)
On English Wikisource, I think there is an unwritten "guideline" that
the people who start a project do have a limited right to "OWN" that
project.
As it is an unwritten rule, I might just be dreaming this.
I would write it up something like:
Wikisource contributors dont enforce our own view of policy unless
someone else is undeniably breaking policy.
Wikisource contributors dont intentionally interfere with each others
projects unless requested, or unless a project is breaking widely held
communal expectations.
Do other Wikisourcerers dream the same dream?
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From: Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>
Date: Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:50 PM
Subject: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects
To: foundation-l <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
The problem of content ownership hits any wiki at some point.
In the English Wikipedia it is governed by a policy called "WP:OWN"
[1]. There's a similar policy in the Hebrew Wikipedia. Is this policy
any different in other projects?
I am asking, because i agree with the English Wikipedia's policy in
principle, but the reality is that sometimes instead of helping people
write together, this policy drives people away from the project -
people who could be very positive contributors, but who don't like
their contributions edited by others without being asked. So i am
wondering: maybe en.wp and he.wp can learn something from other
languages here?
Thank you,
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles
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Dear fellow Wikimedians,
With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
project "Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0" at the 4th
annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala. This is by far the biggest digital
collection of free books in Malayalam language available on CD for offline
use. This is an important milestone, as majority of the households in Kerala
does not have internet or does not have an always on connection and this
will enable them to access these books as an offline content.
Contents:
Selected Poems by
* Kumaranasan
* Cherusseri
* Changampuzha Krishna Pillai
* Kalakkaththu Kunchan Nambiar
* Irayimman Thampi
* Ramapurathu Warrier
Malayalam Grammer
* Kerala Panineeyam by AR Rajaraja Varma
Legends/Folklore
* Aithihyamala
Novels
* Indulekha
Religious
* Bhagavad Gita
* Adhyatma Ramayanam Kilippaatu
* Harinama Keerthanam
* Geetha Govindam
* Sathya Veda Pusthakam (Malayalam Bible)
* Quran
* Works of Sree Narayana Guru
* Devotional songs for Christian, Hindu and Islamic religions
Native Art Form
* Parichamuttukali pattukal
Philosophy (Political)
* Communist Manifesto
* Principles of Communism (Friedrich Engels)
The CD also contains the commons collections of images on food, plants,
birds, maps and celebrations from Kerala. The CD is made available for
download in iso format as well as browsing at our community website -
http://www.mlwiki.in. For those who are interested in the technical
challenges and aspects of the background work may read Santhosh's blog
post<http://thottingal.in/blog/2011/06/11/malayalam-wikisource-offline-version/>about
it.
We thank every one who participated in the effort. Comments and questions
are welcome.
Thanks and Regards,
Malayalam Wikimedia Community.
Congratulations!
Specially because it is a non-Wikipedia CD project released after of a
Wikipedia CD project [1].
Maybe the entire Wikimedia community learn from your experience what they
can do if someone remembers that Wikimedia is more than Wikipedia.
--[[:m:User:555|Lugusto]]
[1] - http://www.mlwiki.in/ : Malayalam Wikisource on CD *2011* release and
Malayalam Wikipedia on CD *2010* release
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:12 PM, emijrp <emijrp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Creating an offline version of a wiki project is a hard work. Keep up the
> good work! Congratulations! : )
>
> P.D.: downloading...
>
> 2011/6/11 Jyothis E <jyothis.e(a)gmail.com>
>
> > Dear fellow Wikimedians,
> >
> > With great pleasure, Malayalam Wikimedia Community announced its 2011 CD
> > project "Selected Books from Malayalam Wikisource on CD - 1.0" at the 4th
> > annual Wiki Meetup in Kannur, Kerala. This is by far the biggest digital
> > collection of free books in Malayalam language available on CD for
> offline
> > use. This is an important milestone, as majority of the households in
> > Kerala
> > does not have internet or does not have an always on connection and this
> > will enable them to access these books as an offline content.
> >
> > Contents:
> >
> > Selected Poems by
> > * Kumaranasan
> > * Cherusseri
> > * Changampuzha Krishna Pillai
> > * Kalakkaththu Kunchan Nambiar
> > * Irayimman Thampi
> > * Ramapurathu Warrier
> >
> > Malayalam Grammer
> > * Kerala Panineeyam by AR Rajaraja Varma
> >
> > Legends/Folklore
> > * Aithihyamala
> >
> > Novels
> > * Indulekha
> >
> > Religious
> > * Bhagavad Gita
> > * Adhyatma Ramayanam Kilippaatu
> > * Harinama Keerthanam
> > * Geetha Govindam
> > * Sathya Veda Pusthakam (Malayalam Bible)
> > * Quran
> > * Works of Sree Narayana Guru
> > * Devotional songs for Christian, Hindu and Islamic religions
> >
> > Native Art Form
> > * Parichamuttukali pattukal
> >
> > Philosophy (Political)
> > * Communist Manifesto
> > * Principles of Communism (Friedrich Engels)
> >
> > The CD also contains the commons collections of images on food, plants,
> > birds, maps and celebrations from Kerala. The CD is made available for
> > download in iso format as well as browsing at our community website -
> > http://www.mlwiki.in. For those who are interested in the technical
> > challenges and aspects of the background work may read Santhosh's blog
> > post<
> >
> http://thottingal.in/blog/2011/06/11/malayalam-wikisource-offline-version/
> > >about
> > it.
> >
> > We thank every one who participated in the effort. Comments and questions
> > are welcome.
> >
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > Malayalam Wikimedia Community.
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Dear Wikimedians --
A project to build a national public digital library in the US, the
"Digital Public Library of America", is asking for statements of
interest from people or groups who have ideas for what this might look
like -- and mean to create a prototype or detailed proposal over the
course of this summer.
Actual proposals, of whatever form, are due in September, but a
statement of interest is due by June 15. If you are interested in the
subject, or currently working on a project you could see being part of
such a public resource, you can submit a statement online:
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/dpla/forms/statement-of-interest/
See below for background on the DPLA. While this group is focused on
a national project for a single country (formed by a consortium of US
libraries, foundations, and academics) , they are conscious of the
need to do something similar worldwide, and committed to making this
process and ersulting tools as open and reusable as possible.
SJ
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From: Maura Marx <maura(a)knowledgecommons.org>
Date: Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:51 PM
Subject: Fwd: [berkmanfriends] DPLA Beta Sprint: Calling all Submitters!
To: Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com>
statements of interest for the DPLA Beta Sprint are due in a week -
can you help push this message out to your network? much appreciated!
Looking forward to seeing you the the workshop in DC
Maura
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From: John Palfrey <jpalfrey(a)law.harvard.edu>
Date: Mon, May 23, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Subject: [berkmanfriends] DPLA Beta Sprint: Calling all Submitters!
To: "berkmanfriends(a)eon.law.harvard.edu" <berkmanfriends(a)eon.law.harvard.edu>
At the Digital Public Library of America, we've just announced a "Beta
Sprint" to gather creative ideas, models, and other innovations that
could play a role in the building of a DPLA. We'd love to see
submissions from members of this list, as we know many of you have
excellent thoughts on how this effort might take shape. Please find
the full announcement below, and let me, Rebekah Heacock, and/or Maura
Marx know if you have any questions or want to team up with one of the
groups that appear already to be forming to make a submission.
Best,
John
--
The Digital Public Library of America (DPLA) Steering Committee is
delighted to announce today a Beta Sprint that aims to surface
innovations that could play a part in the building of a digital public
library.
The Beta Sprint seeks, ideas, models, prototypes, technical tools,
user interfaces, etc. – put forth as a written statement, a visual
display, code, or a combination of forms – that demonstrate how the
DPLA might index and provide access to a wide range of broadly
distributed content. The Beta Sprint also encourages development of
submissions that suggest alternative designs or that focus on
particular parts of the system, rather than on the DPLA as a whole.
The DPLA Steering Committee is leading the first concrete steps toward
the realization of a large-scale digital public library that will make
the cultural and scientific record available to all. The DPLA planning
initiative grew out of an October 2010 meeting at the Radcliffe
Institute for Advanced Study, which brought together over 40
representatives from foundations, research institutions, cultural
organizations, government, and libraries to discuss best approaches to
building a national digital library. Subsequent workshops in March and
May have addressed the content, scope, and technical aspects of a
DPLA.
“As the DPLA planning initiative moves forward, we are optimistic that
the DPLA community and public can help us think about what a DPLA
might look like, in practical – and perhaps unexpected – ways, as
platform, architecture, interface, and beyond,” said John Palfrey,
chair of the DPLA Steering Committee. “We hope geeks and librarians,
especially, will join forces to develop beta submissions in support of
this initiative.”
“The Beta Sprint is where the dream of a seamless and comprehensive
digital library for every person begins to grapple, technically and
creatively, with what has already been accomplished and what still
need to be developed,” said Doron Weber, Vice President of Programs at
the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation and a Steering Committee member. “The
DPLA represents the broadest coalition of stakeholders ever assembled
who are dedicated to free and universal access to knowledge for all,
and the Beta Sprint will help us kick off an 18-month program to
construct, brick by digital brick, this beautiful new edifice.”
For inspiration, Beta Sprint participants might consider the general
approach taken by initiatives whose leaders are on the DPLA Steering
Committee, such as the Internet Archive, Public.Resource.Org, the
Hathi Trust, American Memory, and others, as well as the Europeana
project and the national digital libraries in the Netherlands, Norway,
and South Korea.
Submission instructions and more information are available at
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/dpla, where you can also watch a short
video about the Beta Sprint. Statements of interest must be received
by June 15, 2011. Final submissions will be due by September 1, 2011.
A review panel appointed by the Steering Committee and composed of
experts in the fields of library science, information management, and
computer science will review Beta Sprint submissions in early
September. Creators of the most promising betas will be invited to
present their ideas to interested stakeholders and community members
during a public meeting in Washington, DC.
# # #
About the Digital Public Library of America
The Digital Public Library of America (DPLA) planning initiative is an
impact-oriented research effort that unites leaders from all types of
libraries, museums, and archives with educators, industry, and
government to define the vision for a digital library in service of
the American public. The DPLA Secretariat is located at the Berkman
Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University; the Steering
Committee comprises library and foundation leaders across the nation.
More information can be found at
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/research/dpla.
About the Berkman Center for Internet & Society
The Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard University is a
research program founded to explore cyberspace, share in its study,
and help pioneer its development. Founded in 1997, through a generous
gift from Jack N. and Lillian R. Berkman, the Center is home to an
ever-growing community of faculty, fellows, staff, and affiliates
working on projects that span the broad range of intersections between
cyberspace, technology, and society. More information can be found
athttp://cyber.law.harvard.edu/.
Digital Public Library of America Steering Committee
Paul Courant, Harold T. Shapiro Professor of Public Policy and Dean of
Libraries at the University of Michigan
Robert Darnton, Carl H. Pforzheimer University Professor and Director
of the Harvard University Library
Carla Hayden, Chief Executive Officer of the Enoch Pratt Free Library
(Baltimore, Maryland)
Charles Henry, President of the Council on Library and Information
Resources (CLIR)
Luis Herrera, City Librarian for the City and County of San Francisco
Susan Hildreth, Director of the Institute for Museum and Library Services
Brewster Kahle, Founder of the Internet Archive
Michael A. Keller, Ida M. Green University Librarian, Director of
Academic Information Resources at Stanford University
Carl Malamud, President, Public.Resource.Org
Deanna Marcum, Associate Librarian for Library Services at the Library
of Congress
Maura Marx, Berkman Center Fellow and Executive Director, Open Knowledge Commons
Jerome McGann, John Stewart Bryan University Professor at the
University of Virginia
John Palfrey, Faculty Co-Director at the Berkman Center; Henry N. Ess
III Professor of Law and Vice Dean of Library and Information
Resources at Harvard Law School (chair)
Peggy Rudd, Executive Director/State Librarian of the Texas State
Library and Archives Commission
Amy E. Ryan, President of the Boston Public Library
Donald Waters, Program Officer for Scholarly Communications and
Information Technology at the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation
Doron Weber, Vice President, Programs at the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation
Contact:
Rebekah Heacock
Project Coordinator
Berkman Center for Internet & Society
rheacock(a)cyber.law.harvard.edu
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Dear all,
I am Shiju Alex and I am a Malayalam Wikisource volunteer -
http://ml.wikisource.org For those who do not know,
Malayalam<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam>is spoken in the
state of Kerala in South India.
We have a special case regarding a *notable Malayalam book* in Malayalam
Wikisource <http://ml.wikisource.org>. A notable writer of Malayalam (
http://issuu.com/jdevika) is ready to release some of her notable works
under free license <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/>(Both
text and images)
Few Malayalam wikians *want to add this book to Malayalam wikisource*. But
few others argue that even though book is notable since it is a recent book
it can not be in Wikisource. They argue that only source texts which are in
public domain need to in wikisource.
I am unable to find any similar case in *English wikisource*. Could some one
please guide us regarding this? My primary question is, If a *notable* book
of a language is available in a wikisource compatibility license can that be
added to Wikisource?
If this is done is any other language, can some one please share the links.
Shiju Alex
After a question at English Wikisource Scriptorium about output of
works as ePub, I sent the below email to Wikitech-L to which there
were two responses. (After the first I had an IRC conversation
accordingly) I logged this as a Bugzilla request. I suppose the two
aspects I see are
1) there is some scope for the output as ePub, though exactly how and
what we will not know until we can get it aboard and play
2) that there seems to be scope for actual real work on
Extension:Collection. Where and when is unknown.
I have also added it onto
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sources/wiki/WS:BUGS
So such is promising. Two emails contained below.
Regards Andrew
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From: "Billinghurst" <billinghurst(a)gmail.com>
To: wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Date sent: Mon, 16 May 2011 21:05:28 +1000
Subject: [Wikitech-l] Output as ePub or Mobi?
Is there anyone working on the output of work as EPUB or MOBI for the
Mediawiki product? It is something that would sit well for the
output of works from Wikisource. That technical side is well beyond
me, so I thought it would be good to know if anyone is working on
that avenue for output.
Thanks. Regards Andrew
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------- Forwarded message follows -------
From: Brion Vibber <brion(a)pobox.com>
Date sent: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:18:36 +0200
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
> I'm having some discussions about adding it to the Books collection
> extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection).
>
> Will update as I have more info.
>
OP has filed a request for review of an EPub exporter extension found
via mediawiki.org: BZ entry -
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29023
I've taken a quick initial look and I think it should be feasible
with fixes for smaller third-party sites -- so could probably be
copied into our SVN for maintenance & distribution if there's no
license or other major issues.
For production Wikimedia use though I think we'd be happiest with
integrating with the Collection / mwlib stuff, so it fits with our
other export options and (most importantly) that method of building
export sets.
-- brion
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Being at Berlin Hackathon, I asked Ashar Voltuiz if they could
install the Dynamic PageList
extension<http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DynamicPageList_%28Wikimedia%29>in
the Italian Wikisource.
I knew a lot of Wikisource asked for that, so they eventually installed for
everyone.
Hope this is good news also for you!
Aubrey