Wikisource-l September 2013

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource User Group
by Erasmo Barresi 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG?A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG?A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more.If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting?A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo

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Banned Books Week
by John Vandenberg 26 Sep '13

26 Sep '13

A Facebook post from the State Library of New South Wales alerted me to this being Banned Books Week. http://www.bannedbooksweek.org/ https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/bannedbooksweek https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bannedbooksweek There is only two days left in the 'week'. What can we do to participate? My idea for an international project is to set up a latin transcription of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum I havent looked carefully for an online text, but it isnt immediately obvious that it has been transcribed already. -- John Vandenberg

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Does WikiSource support newspapers?
by Pradeep Mohandas 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

Hi, We're looking at a collaboration where we might get newspapers from the 1850s. Can we upload these onto WikiSource? Any useful structural systems in place to handle this? Pradeep Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone

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Fwd: Pitch In! Oral History transcription pilot
by John Vandenberg 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: John Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> Date: 21 September 2013 17:09 Subject: Pitch In! Oral History transcription pilot To: Wikimedia-au <wikimediaau-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Pip Kelly <Philippa.Kelly(a)slq.qld.gov.au> Hi, The State Library of Queensland (SLQ) Pitch In! project has three more weeks to go. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:WikiProject_SLQ New users and anons are still appearing whenever the SLQ promote the project on social media. e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesLinked&day… SLQ has added an oral history to be transcribed, and after a bit of fiddling we have the transcription project ready. It is a 1h20m interview of Ian Charlton, a retired Queensland architect. SLQ has a large collection of similar interviews of significant architects, and hope this pilot will clear the way for more similar uploads. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Ian_Charlton.ogg The Proofread Page software doesnt have any special support for ogg files, however each page has a player preset to the desired starting point for transcription. The player should jump forward without needing to download the 80meg audio file. e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Ian_Charlton.ogg/17 This transcription can then be 'incorporated' into the ogg file using the new Timed Media Handler. I've done a quick demo here: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/TimedText:Ian_Charlton.ogg.en.srt This is new territory for Wikisource, and the Commons timedtext feature is also fairly new to most of us. It would be great if a few members of this list can play around with this ogg project a little and report problems. Next week newbies will be asked to contribute to this transcription. There is a centralised discussion at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium#Transcribing_audio -- John Vandenberg

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Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo
by Federico Leva (Nemo) 21 Sep '13

21 Sep '13

FYI Nemo P.s.: P.s.: You can check whether the WMF protects the logo of your project by seeing if it's listed as "registered trademark" on <https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_trademarks>. -------- Messaggio originale -------- Oggetto: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo Data: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:16:16 +0200 Mittente: Tomasz W. Kozlowski Hello community, this is to inform you that in response to the trademarking of the Wikimedia community logo[1], created in 2006 by Artur “WarX” Fijałkowski, which was discussed on this mailing list[2] as well as on Meta[3] back in March, a small group of community members—Artur, myself, Federico Leva (Nemo) and John Vandenberg—have initiated a formal process of opposition against the registration of the trademark by the Foundation in order to *reclaim the logo* for unrestricted use by the community. We appreciate the Foundation’s protection of the other trademarks they have registered so far, including the logos of Wikipedia, Wikisource and some other sister projects. In the case of the community logo, however, it is our belief that the Foundation’s actions are exactly opposite to what the community logo stands for and contradict the purpose behind its very existence. We would like to make it clear that it is not our intention to damage anyone; our actions are a challenge against what we perceive as unilateral declaration of ownership of an asset that has always belonged to the wider community, and not to one or another organisation that is part of the movement. By formally opposing the registration of the trademark we hope to ensure the history of this logo is not disregarded, and we wish to protect the community against unnecessary bureaucracy and, to use another quote, let “groups who do not purport to represent the WMF”[4] to continue to be able to freely associate with a logo that has been part of their identity for so long. We also want to note that this is in no way a legal action against the Foundation, but a simple notice of opposition against the registration of the logo in the European Union. If we assume good faith, we can only be confident that the WMF, having now a formal occasion, will withdraw its registration of the logo rather than continue using movement resources to force the community into lengthy, expensive proceedings. We invite all community members interested in this issue to express their opinions at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo/Reclaim_the_Logo If any of you would like to help us in any way (covering the costs of the opposition, promoting the discussion, etc.), please feel free to contact us off–list. Artur Fijalkowski (WarX) Tomasz Kozlowski (odder) Federico Leva (Nemo) John Vandenberg (jayvdb) == References == * [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg * [2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-March/124715.html * [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Logo * [4] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-March/124730.html _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Wikisource survey
by Andrea Zanni 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

Dear all, me and David (plus John, Tpt, Candalua, and now *you*) are preparing this survey to know more about what WS editors know and think about Wikisource and its future: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development/Open_community_po… You are welcome to come and edit the survey, adding questions you feel as important or gjust giving us some feedback. We feel that data gathered from this survey could be crucial to understand a bit what the gloabal community wants and how to reach that. Me and Micru would use the data to write a document to present to WMF and other organizations (Wikimedia chapters, OKFN, etc.). With the help of the whole Wikisource community, our aim is to draft a proposal for the development of some core features. We strongly believe that if the Wikisource community can express his opinion on this, the WMF (or other entities) will be able to finally dedicate some resources to improve Wikisource infrastructure. This is why is crucial that everyone interested step in and improve the survey. After that, we will be able to promote it in all Wikisources, and wait for editors to respond. Please, tell me what you think about it. Aubrey

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Wikisource for archival transcription
by Ben Brumfield 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

I'll be presenting on crowdsourced transcription at the Midwest Archives Conference Fall Symposium next week and would like to spend some time on Wikisource and examples of small-to-medium sized archives working with Wikisource to transcribe handwritten material. I know about the US NARA-Wikisource example--though it's a bit too big to be relevant for my audience--and really like the Archives departmental des Alpes-Maritimes on Wikisource.fr (see http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Partenariats/Archives_D%C3%A9parte… http://manuscripttranscription.blogspot.com/2012/04/french-departmental-arc…) Are there other good examples of libraries and archives working with Wikisource for handwritten material I should point to? Are there "how to"s similar to the GLAM-Wiki guides? I'm fine dealing with French, German, or Spanish, but suspect my audience would prefer Engish-language projects. Ben http://manuscripttranscription.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Wikisource-l] Wikisource-l Digest, Vol 252, Issue 1
by Ben Brumfield 13 Sep '13

13 Sep '13

There are many difficulties I see with Scripto as an alternative to Proofread Page: 1) all metadata about e.g. the order of pages within a book lives within the CMS scripto is connected to. This means that features like PediaPress won't work, as they can't navigate from page 2 to page 3. 2) the actual images live on the connected CMS -- in fact the CMS is the whole interface to the wiki. I imagine that the Scripto folks would be happy to weigh in, though. (They're great people -- post on their dev list and see if they'll comment.) If wikisource were to look at an alternative to ProofRead Page, I suspect that the Bentham Transcription Desk might be a more appropriate, pure-MediaWiki alternative. Ben Brumfield http://manuscripttranscription.blogspot.com/ On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 7:00 AM, <wikisource-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>wrote: > Send Wikisource-l mailing list submissions to > wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikisource-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikisource-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikisource-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Scripto, free software for transcribing documents > (Andrea Zanni) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:37:35 +0200 > From: Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" > <wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Scripto, free software for transcribing > documents > Message-ID: > <CAC=VxyYskMeLDgDNZ9hp255B2JWYkoZ-= > Ta2D0Kq2OSa9bHmbA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I wantet to rejoice this old mail from Lars: > > Scripto is an alternative to the ProofreadPage extension used > by Wikisource. It is based on Mediawiki but also on OpenLayers, > the software used to zoom and pan in OpenStreetMap. > > The only website I have seen that uses Scripto is the U.K. > War Department papers, and in many ways it is more clumsy > than ProofreadPage. But there might be a few ideas that could > be worth picking up. Take a look. > > The software is described at http://scripto.org/ > > As for reference installations, they mention > http://wardepartmentpapers.org/transcribe.php > > Does anyone know this software? > Could we be interested? > > Aubrey > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Lars Aronsson <lars(a)aronsson.se> wrote: > > > Scripto is an alternative to the ProofreadPage extension used > > by Wikisource. It is based on Mediawiki but also on OpenLayers, > > the software used to zoom and pan in OpenStreetMap. > > > > The only website I have seen that uses Scripto is the U.K. > > War Department papers, and in many ways it is more clumsy > > than ProofreadPage. But there might be a few ideas that could > > be worth picking up. Take a look. > > > > The software is described at http://scripto.org/ > > > > As for reference installations, they mention > > http://wardepartmentpapers.org/transcribe.php > > > > > > -- > > > > Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) > > Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikisource-l mailing list > > Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l > > >

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Scripto, free software for transcribing documents
by Lars Aronsson 12 Sep '13

12 Sep '13

Scripto is an alternative to the ProofreadPage extension used by Wikisource. It is based on Mediawiki but also on OpenLayers, the software used to zoom and pan in OpenStreetMap. The only website I have seen that uses Scripto is the U.K. War Department papers, and in many ways it is more clumsy than ProofreadPage. But there might be a few ideas that could be worth picking up. Take a look. The software is described at http://scripto.org/ As for reference installations, they mention http://wardepartmentpapers.org/transcribe.php -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se

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Wikisource User Group
by Andrea Zanni 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Dear all, as many of you know, we are asking the Affiliation Committee to create a "Wikisource User Group" https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikisource_User_Group The idea is very simple: we can create a group of interested Wikisource users, share ideas and experiences, and also interact with GLAMs in outreach activities. Many of you signed the page, so what I'm asking you is to decide together what we do want to do with the User Group, as the AffCom asked us additional questions. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#AffComm_questions IMHO, the best way to do this is: * notify your own Wikisource about this idea, so we can spread the word * discuss on the Talk page (or here, if you prefer) about what we want to do, and what is your idea. For you convenience, here are the questions with my own answers: - Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? Me and Micru are concluding our IEG, but currently no money were spent on the user group, and we don't see the need of funds coming for quite some time. It is possible that in the future, if the Ws UG is succesfull, it will need some funds, but there will be time to plan this and ask to the GAC, for example, for specific projects. - I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG? Right now, no. We are thinking of gathering people from different Wikisource communities to boost coordination and join our forces in making Wikisource the great project it deserves. We need software development and together we can propose the WMF or other entities to fund some projects or dedicate some staff time. - Untill now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting? Well, this is up to you :-) Aubrey

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