Hello,
Have never visited Urdu Wikipedia myself, but from the face of data shared by user dvyas, this sounds like a gross manipulation.
23000 articles in just two months? and how many users contributed? Even if we assume that 100 users contributed everyday, this comes to approx 4 new articles everyday...
Do they have so many users available? Otherwise this sounds like GROSS MANIPULATION.
*Wikipedia in any languages should exist to serve Knowledge. and Knowledge is better represented by the quality of articles and not by numbers.*
Any automated process can generate lot many pages. For example, Using LibreOffice on Linux, anyone can generate thousands of articles with very little knowledge about computer programming. My point here is that even BOT is not required to generate pages.
Lots many pages can be generated by using latest version of LibreOffice and a small amount of Linux Programming. and the fun part if that it would look like pages created by legitimate users.
So let us stay away from NUMBER GAME. If we really really want to increase no of pages, it MUST be by using legitimate users and legitimate content. Thats all.
Regards,
Good News Muzammil, But I have seen questions raised for you regarding this number. People have found out that till mid February there were only around 27 thousand pages, how did Urdu wikipedia reach 50,000 mark in 2 months? Someone also found that most of the recent activity is due to Bot operation and 90% of pages are less than 20kb in size, which means they are nearly substubs. Can you please clarify all these? Thanks, User: Dsvyas On 24 Apr 2014 18:04, "muzammil" muzammil@cis-india.org wrote:
Dear friends,
I am pleased to inform you that today the Urdu Wikipedia has crossed the 50,000 articles mark.
I am honoured to be a humble contributor of this Wikipedia which has reached a dream milestone which is yet to be covered by many other Wikipedias.
The focus, as the community feels, will now shift on referencing and elaborating many of the existing articles to satisfactory levels.
Also, the next target is to cross the 1,00,000 articles mark.
Regards, Muzammil.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM, વિહંગ વ્યાસંગી ornithologistbhatt@gmail.com wrote:
23000 articles in just two months? and how many users contributed? Even if we assume that 100 users contributed everyday, this comes to approx 4 new articles everyday...
વાસ્તવમાં આ એક બોટનું જ પરાક્રમ છે! જુઓ: https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8... બીજો એક બોટ પણ સારું એવું પ્રદાન કરી રહ્યો છે. આ પરથી પ્રેરણા લઇ ગુજરાતી વિકિપીડિઆ ૧,૦૦,૦૦૦ નો આંકડો એકાદ મહિનામાં આરામથી પાર કરી શકે છે ;)
Exactly Kartikbhai,
Can you please let me know how long did it take you to check whether these are bot generated pages? I am surprised to know that it has taken so long for Muzammil to determine the fact.
Anyways, I have just come to know another fact that, though Muzammil is using CIS-India's email address, which implies that he is CIS employee, he is actually not. His tenure with CIS ended in March, so, I am completely clueless of his involvement with the project and in what capacity he is communicating this.
Regards,
Dhaval S. Vyas
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-----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-gu-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-gu-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Kartik Mistry Sent: 25 April 2014 16:08 To: વિહંગ વ્યાસંગી Cc: Wikipedia Gujarati; muzammil Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-gu] Urdu Wikipedia crosses the 50,000 mark
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM, વિહંગ વ્યાસંગી ornithologistbhatt@gmail.com wrote:
23000 articles in just two months? and how many users contributed? Even if we assume that 100 users contributed everyday, this comes to approx 4 new articles everyday...
વાસ્તવમાં આ એક બોટનું જ પરાક્રમ છે! જુઓ: https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8... બીજો એક બોટ પણ સારું એવું પ્રદાન કરી રહ્યો છે. આ પરથી પ્રેરણા લઇ ગુજરાતી વિકિપીડિઆ ૧,૦૦,૦૦૦ નો આંકડો એકાદ મહિનામાં આરામથી પાર કરી શકે છે ;)
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Vyas, Dhaval dhaval.vyas@citi.com wrote:
I have just come to know another fact that, though Muzammil is using CIS-India's email address, which implies that he is CIS employee, he is actually not. His tenure with CIS ended in March, so, I am completely clueless of his involvement with the project and in what capacity he is communicating this.
I have just come to know another fact that, though Muzammil is using
CIS-India's email address, which implies that he is CIS employee,
he is actually not. His tenure with CIS ended in March, so, I am
completely clueless of his involvement with the project and in what capacity he is communicating this.
O.M.G. This is too much (Actually, many many much). Proper authority from WikiMedia Foundation MUST come forward and explain this.
કાર્તિકભાઇ, એ માટે તો બોટની પણ જરૂર નથી. LibreOffice Writer થી હવે સીધા Wikipediaમાં direct article post કરી જ શકાય છે.
આ માહીતી અને જરૂરી Technical Capabilities આપણી પાસે ઉપલબ્ધ હોવા છતા પણ આપણે જ્યારે નવેમ્બર / ડીસેમ્બર માં ૨૦૦૦ નવા લેખ બનાવવાનું બીડું જડપ્યું ત્યારે માનવ-શ્રમથી જ બનાવ્યા હતા.
એમની રીતે લેખ બનાવવાનો કોઇ અર્થ ખરો?
2014-04-25 20:38 GMT+05:30 Kartik Mistry kartik.mistry@gmail.com:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 7:01 PM, વિહંગ વ્યાસંગી ornithologistbhatt@gmail.com wrote:
23000 articles in just two months? and how many users contributed? Even
if
we assume that 100 users contributed everyday, this comes to approx 4 new articles everyday...
વાસ્તવમાં આ એક બોટનું જ પરાક્રમ છે! જુઓ:
https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AE%D8%A7%D8%B5:%D8%B4%D8%B1%D8%A7%DA%A9%D8... બીજો એક બોટ પણ સારું એવું પ્રદાન કરી રહ્યો છે. આ પરથી પ્રેરણા લઇ ગુજરાતી વિકિપીડિઆ ૧,૦૦,૦૦૦ નો આંકડો એકાદ મહિનામાં આરામથી પાર કરી શકે છે ;)
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