Programa catalisador da Índia planeja, para o período 2014-2015, 21 projetos de impacto direto nas comunidades e wikis, por um custo inferior a trezentos mil dólares.
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Dear Wikimedians,
I am glad to share with you the detailed work plan of CIS-A2K for the period July 2014-July 2015 [1] . This work plan consists of 21 plans across 6 verticals.
These are: * 7 Language Area Plans * 3 Community Strengthening Initiatives * 8 Stand-alone Wikimedia Projects * Creating Movement Resources * Publicity, Research and Documentation * General Support and Service to the Movement
The work plan includes details of aims, objectives, programme activities and expected outcomes. Most of the language area plans were put together in active consultation with the respective Wikimedia language communities. Various inputs and ideas contributed, opportunities provided, and challenges thrown at the CIS-A2K program during the last year by the Wikimedia communities in India, our institutional partners, Executive Committee (EC) of Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and the Wikimedia Foundation's Grantmaking Team have significantly informed our work plans.
Each plan has an independent budget and is closely mapped on to the implementation plan. An attempt is made to correlate why we are spending a certain amount on a certain activity. Thus all these budgets are very optimally planned and the overall budget is an assimilation. CIS-A2K believes that this will give mission level transparency to our work and provide a clearer structure of accountability to the movement and the community.
Please do share your feedback and inputs on the respective plan discussion pages. We would be glad to correct ourselves if you could point out to any major omissions and errors in plans. We will be approaching the FDC requesting support for this work plan [2].
Thanks, Vishnu (Program Director, CIS-A2K) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_ Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/ 2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form
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Pessoal,
vamos todos pra Índia? ;-)
tirar de contexto é muito complicado:
1) Sobre o foco nos projetos Wikimedia: nós não tiramos de nossa agenda nada do que estava previsto e não vi ninguém propor nenhuma atividade que não estivesse lá. Eu, ao procurar um parceiro, de fato procurei convergências, mas não um CNPJ pra executar. O CIS já era uma organização próxima dos desenvolvedores da WM. Como Garoa, talvez? A quem procurei. Mas não queriam ter que contratar equipes, etc. Eu acho MUITO fora dos meus princípios propor qualquer parceria local falando "o projeto é esse, por favor, executem". Mas cada um é um. Acho que modelo de parceria não tem chance de sobreviver assim. Mas...
Sugiro que o pessoal da comunidade e da equipe que tem manifestado incômodo com isso sugira uma organização, projeto e um orçamento até junho.
2) Alguém tem ideia de quanto representam 300 mil dólarea na Índia? Como eu já previa essa comparação improcedente, eu esclareci isso na própria proposta. Difícil fazer essa conta assim rapidamente, mas cada 100 mil dólares na Índia equivale, em custo de vida, a 250 mil dólares aqui, tá?
"According to the Bereau of Labor Statistcs, in 2012, for each hourly pay for time worked on the value of 5.95, the labor costs achieved 11.20, almost twice the amount [1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-1paid. Brazil has one of the highest costs for employment: the costs over gross salary may achieve almost 60% the amount paid [2]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-2 [3]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-3. For the sake of comparison, while taxes for employers in Brazil achieve 57,56%, in India, employers pay 3,67% [4]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-4. Over the net salary it may achieve almost 100%."
(...)
"Also, maintaining a formal organization in Brazil is quite expensive (also because of this kind of costs, the expression "Custo Brasil"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_costbecame a very common expression). This makes all organizations, especially those whose incomes are usually based on projects and programmes (and not in manufacturing and getting profit out of selling products), insert lines regarding institutional costs in all projects they get funding for. There are many expenses that are usually not "dividable" (location and maintenance of the venue, administration costs, electricity, water, legal support/consultancy, accountants etc). Administrative rates usually vary from 10% to 30%, depending on the costs involved in general institutional and administrative support." Cost of living
Brazil's cost of living is getting higher every year. Again, for the sake of comparison with our "brother project", the Catalyst Program in India, the cost of living in São Paulo is 147% higher than in Bangalore [5]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-5. When compared to San Francisco, it's about 35% cheaper [6]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-6. Two years ago Brazil's cost of living had overcome US's cost of living [7]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-7. However, in 2013 the US dollar achieved its highest rate since 2008. When we started designing the budget, dollar was still under R$ 2,00. The exchange rate for receiving dollars in Brazil is now between 2.25 and 2,30. To avoid major risks in this unstable economy, though, we'd better be conservative about the dollar rates now and report back compensating the difference when it's time to receive the second installment from Wikimedia Foundation.
Oona
On 1 April 2014 00:18, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
Programa catalisador da Índia planeja, para o período 2014-2015, 21 projetos de impacto direto nas comunidades e wikis, por um custo inferior a trezentos mil dólares.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vishnu visdaviva@gmail.com Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:06 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Wikimedians,
I am glad to share with you the detailed work plan of CIS-A2K for the period July 2014-July 2015 [1] . This work plan consists of 21 plans across 6 verticals.
These are:
- 7 Language Area Plans
- 3 Community Strengthening Initiatives
- 8 Stand-alone Wikimedia Projects
- Creating Movement Resources
- Publicity, Research and Documentation
- General Support and Service to the Movement
The work plan includes details of aims, objectives, programme activities and expected outcomes. Most of the language area plans were put together in active consultation with the respective Wikimedia language communities. Various inputs and ideas contributed, opportunities provided, and challenges thrown at the CIS-A2K program during the last year by the Wikimedia communities in India, our institutional partners, Executive Committee (EC) of Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and the Wikimedia Foundation's Grantmaking Team have significantly informed our work plans.
Each plan has an independent budget and is closely mapped on to the implementation plan. An attempt is made to correlate why we are spending a certain amount on a certain activity. Thus all these budgets are very optimally planned and the overall budget is an assimilation. CIS-A2K believes that this will give mission level transparency to our work and provide a clearer structure of accountability to the movement and the community.
Please do share your feedback and inputs on the respective plan discussion pages. We would be glad to correct ourselves if you could point out to any major omissions and errors in plans. We will be approaching the FDC requesting support for this work plan [2].
Thanks, Vishnu (Program Director, CIS-A2K) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_ Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/ 2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form
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Ah,a diferença caiu um pouco - não está de 147%, mas de 137%: comparando a cidade mais cara da Índia c/ SP (cuswto de vida impacta em cadeia) - http://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living/comparison/bangalore/sao-paulo
E no caso dos impostos relativos a salários ou serviços a diferença é de 2% (Índia) pra 57% (BR) sobre salários brutos.
Oona
On 1 April 2014 01:49, Oona Castro oonacastro@gmail.com wrote:
Pessoal,
vamos todos pra Índia? ;-)
tirar de contexto é muito complicado:
- Sobre o foco nos projetos Wikimedia: nós não tiramos de nossa agenda
nada do que estava previsto e não vi ninguém propor nenhuma atividade que não estivesse lá. Eu, ao procurar um parceiro, de fato procurei convergências, mas não um CNPJ pra executar. O CIS já era uma organização próxima dos desenvolvedores da WM. Como Garoa, talvez? A quem procurei. Mas não queriam ter que contratar equipes, etc. Eu acho MUITO fora dos meus princípios propor qualquer parceria local falando "o projeto é esse, por favor, executem". Mas cada um é um. Acho que modelo de parceria não tem chance de sobreviver assim. Mas...
Sugiro que o pessoal da comunidade e da equipe que tem manifestado incômodo com isso sugira uma organização, projeto e um orçamento até junho.
- Alguém tem ideia de quanto representam 300 mil dólarea na Índia? Como
eu já previa essa comparação improcedente, eu esclareci isso na própria proposta. Difícil fazer essa conta assim rapidamente, mas cada 100 mil dólares na Índia equivale, em custo de vida, a 250 mil dólares aqui, tá?
"According to the Bereau of Labor Statistcs, in 2012, for each hourly pay for time worked on the value of 5.95, the labor costs achieved 11.20, almost twice the amount [1]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-1paid. Brazil has one of the highest costs for employment: the costs over gross salary may achieve almost 60% the amount paid [2]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-2 [3]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-3. For the sake of comparison, while taxes for employers in Brazil achieve 57,56%, in India, employers pay 3,67% [4]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-4. Over the net salary it may achieve almost 100%."
(...)
"Also, maintaining a formal organization in Brazil is quite expensive (also because of this kind of costs, the expression "Custo Brasil"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_costbecame a very common expression). This makes all organizations, especially those whose incomes are usually based on projects and programmes (and not in manufacturing and getting profit out of selling products), insert lines regarding institutional costs in all projects they get funding for. There are many expenses that are usually not "dividable" (location and maintenance of the venue, administration costs, electricity, water, legal support/consultancy, accountants etc). Administrative rates usually vary from 10% to 30%, depending on the costs involved in general institutional and administrative support." Cost of living
Brazil's cost of living is getting higher every year. Again, for the sake of comparison with our "brother project", the Catalyst Program in India, the cost of living in São Paulo is 147% higher than in Bangalore [5]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-5. When compared to San Francisco, it's about 35% cheaper [6]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-6. Two years ago Brazil's cost of living had overcome US's cost of living [7]https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programa_Catalisador_do_Brasil/Planejamento_2012-2013/Parcerias/A%C3%A7%C3%A3o_Educativa/Proposal/Budget#cite_note-7. However, in 2013 the US dollar achieved its highest rate since 2008. When we started designing the budget, dollar was still under R$ 2,00. The exchange rate for receiving dollars in Brazil is now between 2.25 and 2,30. To avoid major risks in this unstable economy, though, we'd better be conservative about the dollar rates now and report back compensating the difference when it's time to receive the second installment from Wikimedia Foundation.
Oona
On 1 April 2014 00:18, Luiz Augusto lugusto@gmail.com wrote:
Programa catalisador da Índia planeja, para o período 2014-2015, 21 projetos de impacto direto nas comunidades e wikis, por um custo inferior a trezentos mil dólares.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Vishnu visdaviva@gmail.com Date: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:06 PM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] CIS-A2K Work Plan for July 14-June 15 To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Dear Wikimedians,
I am glad to share with you the detailed work plan of CIS-A2K for the period July 2014-July 2015 [1] . This work plan consists of 21 plans across 6 verticals.
These are:
- 7 Language Area Plans
- 3 Community Strengthening Initiatives
- 8 Stand-alone Wikimedia Projects
- Creating Movement Resources
- Publicity, Research and Documentation
- General Support and Service to the Movement
The work plan includes details of aims, objectives, programme activities and expected outcomes. Most of the language area plans were put together in active consultation with the respective Wikimedia language communities. Various inputs and ideas contributed, opportunities provided, and challenges thrown at the CIS-A2K program during the last year by the Wikimedia communities in India, our institutional partners, Executive Committee (EC) of Wikimedia India Chapter (WMIN) and the Wikimedia Foundation's Grantmaking Team have significantly informed our work plans.
Each plan has an independent budget and is closely mapped on to the implementation plan. An attempt is made to correlate why we are spending a certain amount on a certain activity. Thus all these budgets are very optimally planned and the overall budget is an assimilation. CIS-A2K believes that this will give mission level transparency to our work and provide a clearer structure of accountability to the movement and the community.
Please do share your feedback and inputs on the respective plan discussion pages. We would be glad to correct ourselves if you could point out to any major omissions and errors in plans. We will be approaching the FDC requesting support for this work plan [2].
Thanks, Vishnu (Program Director, CIS-A2K) [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_ Knowledge/Draft_Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015 [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/ 2013-2014_round2/The_Centre_for_Internet_and_Society/Proposal_form
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