Traroth wrote:
De : Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com
I may also hint at the fact that we are volunteers and that volunteers can *choose* to take care of a proposal... or not. We are under no obligation to spend hours studying your proposals, and may prefer to focus on other issues of more interest to us or where people will appreciate a bit more the efforts of the team. The comments you made are not motivating in the least.
Anthere
I completly disagree with this point. You are part of the Board. That's an engagement.
Things are made so the agreement of the Board is needed for some decisions. It's unfair to say that the Board has the choice to *not decide* because the members don't care. Such a sentence could be demotivating for the whole project members : why try to organize something, if the Board take no decision about, not because the project is not good, but only because they don't care ?
Traroth
I absolutely agree with you. The Board must take decisions, just as the SPC must take decisions
However, the Board is not here to make/create the projects for you. Nor is the SPC here to make/create projects or proposals for you.
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Oscar best said it in an internal email
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dear gerard,
we value you contributions greatly too. however, only rather incomplete answers were given to all our further questions, such as:
1. the spc needs a clear plan and time schedule. with more details that we can understand somehow, both technically and financially. 2. how many hours of whom are involved? 3. where in the time plan are these hours? 4. whom to fall back upon in case of problems? 5. possible problems? 6. possible extra costs? 7. how much is the reserve for "unforseen costs" etc?
your application has nevertheless been approved. but it has been up to the spc to sort out and estimate things which imo should have been the task of the applyer to do.
all the best, oscar
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We should be here to estimate the interest of a new project, to consider its possible implications etc... It is not our job to gather details, to set up the budget, to hunt for the grant... this is *your* job. If the applyer does his homework well, there is no reason a decision should take forever. In this case, we had to do a lot of the homework and as Oscar indicated, some answers were never answered.
My engagement to the board does involve taking decisions. It does not involve doing all the grunt work. I can do a bit of it as everyone, but I am streched to my limits.
I think there is a huge misunderstanding with regards to the role of the SPC. Its role is not to propose and implement projects on its own. Its role is to help decision-making. It can either decide in the name of the board whether to start a project or not (if it received delegation from the board) or it is meant to insure the board is receiving a pre-digest proposal. The very idea of letting it entirely open appears very weird to me. It would mean a group of random people can make legally and financially binding decisions in the name of the board. There would be no need for a board in this case.
Ant