Hoi, The system may work fine on Meta... That is fine for Meta. I am interested in seeing it work on other wikis where it does not work. The number and the distribution of localisations of the extension is better ensured by having an extension. When the meta functionality was developed, it was not well possible to talk about its "functionality" it was deemed to be neccessary to have only a predetermined set of values that were specified for Meta. At a later stage this list was reluctantly extended. At the time when both functionalities were developed, there was no wish to cooperate. I have kept Pathoschild informed about the extension developments ...
In the end the extension is clearly superior because:
- it does not need to be maintained by copying templates from one project to the other - it will not fall foul on the localisation of the parser extensions - the localisation is part of the Betawiki localisation and it has more localisations - the notion that the qualification of the levels are "inferior" is debatable
One of the reasons for the extension is NOT to have to maintain a long list of templates. Templates are nice for local usage. When they are to be used on all our wikis they are a pest. When they are also to be used by projects outside of the WMF they are clearly inferior.
Templates that are to be used on multiple projects suck big time.
Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:17 AM, mike.lifeguard mike.lifeguard@gmail.com wrote:
I agree; Meta's system works just fine as-is, and I see no need whatsoever to enable an extension which provides inferior functionality.
Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Simetrical [mailto:Simetrical+wikilist@gmail.comSimetrical%2Bwikilist@gmail.com ] Sent: July 1, 2008 8:05 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Cc: Wikimedia developers; wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikitech-l] Implementing the Babel extension
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Jesse Plamondon-Willard pathoschild@gmail.com wrote:
On MetaWiki we implemented an overhauled user language template system, which only uses one meta-template with subpage localizations (see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:User_language). It includes a well-defined set of levels (unlike the old babel system), uses only one sorted category per language, and has various other improvements made possible with ParserFunctions. The babel system was phased out on MetaWiki long ago; see
< http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:User_language#Comparison_with_ babel_templates>.
Now that looks like *exactly* how this system should work. Good job to Meta. There's definitely no need for an extension here that anyone's pointed out.
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