One of the objectives of the group is to "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales". This is not the same as "We legally represent Wikimedia UK in Wales". User groups does not legally represent the WMF and or any chapter. If a group claim they represent a chapter in a state or district, AffCom may ask for clarification from the group representatives. If the response is that "we do not legally represent the chapter ", AffCom will have no choice than to approve their application if they meet the basic requirements for recognition.
Regards,
Isaac.
On Mar 20, 2018 4:04 PM, "Kirill Lokshin" kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Descriptions of user group activities on Meta shouldn't be interpreted as legal documents under UK law (or any other legal code, for that matter).
Any questions regarding potential legal implications for Wikimedia UK should, of course, be directed to the chapter itself.
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 7:11 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
Support the request that AffCom share their understanding of the scope and authority of the announced User Group.
From the wording of "represent Wikimedia UK in Wales"[1], the UG is not independent of WMUK and consequently acts as a Chapter subsidiary. As far as I am aware, there is no other regional based UG which does this.
As a corollary, the representation has legal implications for UK Charity. WMUK must have both responsibility and the authority to monitor and control how they are represented by the UG. It is not clear from the meta web page or the community vote how this will work, apart from the implicit assumption that funding paid to UG projects is effectively managed as a WMUK continuing programme. Presumably the UG will not be requesting funds from the WMF or via the FDC process separate from WMUK's FDC procedure.
The original vote at the Welsh Wikipedia compared the aims to that of the Basque UG.[2] However based on their scope, the Basque UG does not officially represent any other affiliate or Chapter.
Links
- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_Group_Wales
- https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicipedia:Sefydlu_Gr%C5%B5p_
Defnyddwyr_Wicimedia
On 19 March 2018 at 00:10, Philip Kopetzky philip.kopetzky@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Kirill!
It would be really helpful to outline these kind of decisions with arguments/deliberations that AffCom decided to follow, considering that this sets a precedence in the worldwide community. For example, UG Wales states that they "cooperate with and represent Wikimedia UK in Wales" - does this mean that we are now accepting UGs within chapters? Is this UG supposed to be able to apply for grants, despite its overlap with WMUK?
Best, Philip
On 11 March 2018 at 15:44, Shlomi Fish shlomif@shlomifish.org wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 10:32:34 -0400 Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everyone!
I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
recognized
Grŵp Defnyddwyr Cymuned Wicimedia Cymru (Wikimedia Community User
Group
Wales) [1] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to promote the Wikimedia movement in Wales and support the development of Wikimedia projects and content in the Welsh language.
Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
congratulations!
Regards, Kirill Lokshin Chair, Affiliations Committee
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Community_User_
Group_Wales
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