Hoi, If I were not to believe in the usefulness of the Wiki model, I would not invest so much in it. There is however a limit to its usefulness. For one when we publish a text, we indicate in the meta data for that text that it is in a specific linguistic entity. This list is based on standards, these standards are shared and as a consequence things are inferred from the correct usage of these standards. It is perfectly possible to write a featured article on "Westfries". Westfries is a dialect of the Dutch language. Writing a fa about this does not make for a standard that is recognised by others. Thanks, GerardM
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Having a criterion that is dependent on the English language Wikipedia
is
not and cannot be seriously considered as a standard. What it considers
note
worthy is not necessarily relevant from a linguistic or otherwise point
of
view.
Are you denying the usefulness of the wiki model?
To become a Featured Article, a literature article would have to go through the very serious Featured Article Candidates Review. This is the best process we have -anywhere- on Wikimedia to weed out fake and non-notable things.
I'll tell you one thing, there was never a Featured Article on [[Siberian language literature]].
This is just one way for the Languages subcommittee to farm out the research work, to let an established review process advise their opinion on these particular cases, and spare the subcommittee many pages of useless back-and-forth arguments and spurious "facts" supporting different sides.
And it's about literary relevance, not linguistic relevance.
Neither is there a reason to privilege English: an FA is any major-language Wikipedia would demonstrate the same point.
Thanks, Pharos
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Jesse Martin (Pathoschild) pathoschild@gmail.com wrote:
Pharos pharosofalexandria@gmail.com wrote:
What is "notable"?
Notable enough to have a Featured Article about [[Modern Latin literature]] or [[Modern Coptic literature]] on English
Wikipedia or
another major-language Wikipedia.
English should not have a wiki? I don't think it's a very good criteria if even our most prolific non-extinct language doesn't qualify.
I'm proposing a standard for languages that don't have native speakers, which must be judged solely on the output of their written literatures.
This would not restrict Wikipedias for languages with native
speakers.
(Obviously [[Modern English literature]] is notable enough a subject to be FA-worthy anyway, and it would hardly need to be demonstrated)
Thanks, Pharos
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