Hi,
I agree with Andrew that is not practical to whitelist ip addresses as a primary method of overcoming account creation/ CAPTCHA issues at events. Organizers often will not know the ip range in advance because of changes in the address, or last minute changes in the location of the event.
The solution(s) needs to be something that is easy to use for people with minimal tech knowledge so we can expand the group of people who are sponsoring and holding events.
This problem goes back to a core issue that effect outreach efforts: Wikipedia was originally set up to be edited by people sitting alone with a PC/laptop.
Although today many outreach efforts are directed at group events or partner organizations, these new editors still need to fit into polices and a tech environment where editing solo is the norm.
To attract different groups of people to WMF projects, changing methods of dealing with group editing or the new account creation experience needs to be a priority.
Sydney
Sydney
Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
It's true that events *can* get whitelisted, but this is a very complex method. It relies on the organiser knowing the IP ranges in advance, and knowing who to contact at WMF - and on WMF having the time to deal with it. It would rapidly break down if we needed to use this method for every small training session. (I used to do two or three workshops a week...)
Andrew.
On 19 June 2015 at 19:16, Benjamin Lees emufarmers@gmail.com wrote:
Events sometimes get whitelisted for account creation purposes: https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/throttle.php.txt The exceptions there there could be made to set $wgCaptchaWhitelistIP
too.
On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 8:54 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
alternatively perhaps we could whitelist certain domains as likely to
be reliable sources and unlikely to be spam.
There actually already is a whitelist ($wgCaptchaWhitelist in https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/CommonSettings.php.txt). Unfortunately, as far as I know, there's no on-wiki way to change it, but you could always compile a list of domains and submit it through Phabricator.
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