Hoi, With better tooling a better understanding comes. This happened and from that moment we have been expressing the need for a full localisation of MediaWiki and the localisation of the extensions usedd by the Wikimedia Foundation. When we approve a project it takes something like two weeks from the moment this process starts until we can announce that this is the case. It would be unconscionable to deny at this stage.
I have been busy looking at projects in the last couple of days and I pointed out what we expect of the proposed Japanese Wikiversity. If anything I would expect the Japanese community to finish off this needed work even without there being a requirement for this new project.
As to preferring European projects over Asian projects :) I do not think so. It is rather the reverse for me personally, I would sooner apply positive discrimination against the first world then against the others. Then again, from an economic point of view, Japan is part of the first world.
Thanks, GerardM
On Jan 13, 2008 7:37 PM, Aphaia aphaia@gmail.com wrote:
From meta
The Greek nor the Spanish would get their final approval any more. GerardM 14:36, 13 January 2008 (UTC) :Thanks for your clarification. So Japanese Wikiversity can launch their own wiki as well as Greek Wikiversity already does so? --Aphaia 15:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC) ::Sorry, no. GerardM 18:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC) :::Then it seems still unfair. And I think it is your accountability to provide why you treat Japanese project and Greek project differently. --Aphaia 18:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
As an individual editor and as well an editor who joined the discussion about this particular project, I think it is a fair request for ask Langcom for the reason of this partiality.
Why Asian projects are refused what European projects has given?
On Jan 14, 2008 3:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, It is not surprising .. It is what we hope for. Thanks, GerardM
On Jan 13, 2008 5:51 PM, Marco Chiesa chiesa.marco@gmail.com wrote:
Gerard Meijssen ha scritto:
Hoi, I agree that it is unfair. I am asking others to help with the
localisation.
I do ask the Spanish Wikimedians to do the localisation for their
language.
Where I disagree is that it is unreasonable to require the full
localisation
for any subsequent project to start. It is one of the few mechanisms
that
the language committee has to ensure that projects in a language
will be
a
success. We require localisation and we require sufficient quality
content
and sufficient activity so that we can prevent the failure of the
many
projects we have seen in the past. When the localisation is done and
the
project fails anyway there is at least something to show for the
effort.
For another second project, one with little or no localisation, we
got
the
complaint that there may be no people that CAN do the localisation.
The
person indicated that he is only a level-1 speaker of the language
...
what
I ask myself is what the quality of the existing project is.
In a perfect world the localisation of MediaWiki is continuously
maintained.
In this way a new project does not have to put effort to fulfill
this
requirement. Some languages like Arab, Farsi, Dutch, Croat, Slovak,
Upper
Sorbian to name only a few it is a perfect world. Thanks, GerardM
Well, it just appears that the Japanese or the Spanish Wikipedia have managed to become a successful project without a complete
localisation.
Very surprising, indeed!
Cruccone
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
-- KIZU Naoko http://d.hatena.ne.jp/Britty (in Japanese) Quote of the Day (English): http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/WQ:QOTD
foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l