On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 10:30 PM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.comwrote:
pheobe, concerning your motion to vote saying: "wikimedia foundation grows, the affiliated organisations do not grow" "the affiliated organisations are recommended to seek other funding (which the foundation did try and did not succeed very well)" i am disappointed personally by you. you as a person, you as an american, and you as a board member of the foundation. especially about your inability to grasp international cultural differences in terms of funding, fundraising.
I'm totally flummoxed by why you're disappointed given that I can't actually find the quote you're attributing to Phoebe in either the minutes or the FAQ, but you might want to try being less hyperbolic.
because "trust" is mentioned: the FAQ and the minutes are written by a lawyer now, who has maximum 300 wikipedia edits as his lifetime achievement. and for sure, the decision making process is also impressive nowadays: first somebody decides, then it is consulted with a couple of people (affcom, FDC), and the feedback is used only use it to phrase the FAQ about the decision. sometimes i think you people are from outer space ;)
Have you seen the detailed, word-for-word minutes from the meeting? If not, exactly how do you come to this evaluation of how the board reached this particular decision? I note that Phoebe came to the board at one point *as*a representative of the chapters - entities in the wider movement who are directly affected by this change. If you're suggesting that the POV of the wider movement didn't come into the decision, I'm disappointed in /you/ as an applier of Occam's razor; I consider it exceedingly improbable that Phoebe, of all people, would've relied on feedback "only...to phrase the FAQ".
Calm down and discuss it like a reasonable person...and, perhaps, try to avoid personal attacks, even with a wink at the end. People who base their pronoun display on the conventions in a made-up language probably shouldn't throw 'you people are from outer space' stones ;p.