Dear Olga,
Thank you for your explanations, it is good to hear about them on this list. I wish you all the best for the Wikimedia work in Ukraine. I understand that I, compared to most people in Ukraine and Russia, live in very, very favorable circumstances. However, I feel that some statements in this thread are disturbing and inapproriate: * "Yes, bombs are not falling onto our homes but we are having risks of other nature that can have same, or even worse consequences." * "But don't think that you are the only one struggling. That would be a bit selfish even in these damn conditions." Given the situation, and given the actual news from Ukraine, the crimes against humanity, I'd wish that these statements had not been made. I also read: * "Cultural heritage topic was always aside of world politics and I hoped this time it would stay the same." Kolja himself mentions the destruction of Ukrainian cultural heritage that is going on now. And it does not need much googling to learn that destroying buildings, stealing art, burning books etc. - and killing the people linked to a culture - is very much part of "world politics". Olga, as I said, I wish you all the best for your Wikimedia work in Ukraine, and beyond.
Kind regards, Ziko
Am Do., 15. Dez. 2022 um 08:59 Uhr schrieb Željko Blaće zblace@mi2.hr:
Dear Olga and WLM Ukraine - your work is impressive and your efforts to bring visibility and point to issues with WLM in 2022 are also.
I can empathize with the feeling one gets when others are benevolent to recognize and act on what seems obvious *(as someone who experienced war aggression in all of my homelands, first SFR Yugoslavia, then Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina. I do agree that the WLM 2022 international team should not process Russian photos in a competitive way against Ukrainians and I wish this was raised as an issue more publicly. WLM had issues also before with inertia and no capacity and/or good will to recognize problems on national levels. Here I agree with Peter on no good options but this is no excuse for not exploring good-enough or better-than options!
I am hopeful that your work will sustain and that soon enough you will inform and inspire systemic change in Wikimedia. Meanwhile I hope WMF can practically support your work at least with material resources to reduce some of the hardships.
In solidarity - Z. Blace _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list -- wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l Public archives at https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/... To unsubscribe send an email to wikimedia-l-leave@lists.wikimedia.org