I am also withholding my endorsement until the assertion that Mandarin could overtake English is corrected, and I endorse the "harmony is not unison" description of views other than mainstream, towards fringe.
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 6:22 PM, mathieu stumpf guntz psychoslave@culture-libre.org wrote:
Le 27/10/2017 à 16:57, Nicole Ebber a écrit :
Hello again,
I have taken the unclear wording from the meta page. As I said, no one will be excluded from phase 2 conversations.
I would also like to point out that this endorsement page is intended to work like a show of approval and support instead of an RfC. We are asking people to support it, to show that they agree upon the outcomes and intent to contribute to the following process in good faith. It's a group exercise that is also meant to show what unites us as a movement.
It is no surprise that not everyone will like everything in the direction, that's probably in the nature of such a document, and in the nature of a strategy process. For those of you who have expressed concerns and wonder about the clarity of the direction, phase 2 will be the the space for all these conversations.
Well, harmony is not unison, and we promote diversity so it would be actually strange to *not* hear some dissonance here and there.
I found the previous process interesting to look and participate at, but either individual should not be asked to endorse it, or it should be permitted to also be clearly neutral and opposed to it.
That is, either the foundation
- is trying to identify a direction built and assented by the community¹, which is fine;
- or is trying to push some direction, while taking more or less into consideration feedback from the community, which – as far as I'm concerned – is fine too.
But you can't play both sides while throwing a unified façade at the face of the world. When you have (as I'm writing) 1 explicit {{neutral}}, 9 explicit {{opposed}}, 8 explicit and 68 implicit {{support}}, I don't see the point of hiding disagreements. All the more, if endorsement don't play any role in participation in future phases, and that there is in fact no actual way to oppose to its adoption as is as a base for the next phase. What the point of this endorsement at all? Why don't run phase 2 after phase 1 just like have been done for cycles?
Finally, where is "knowledge equity" when endorsement requires that people "are endorsing the original English version"?
Also, endorsement by groups is a different point, as groups can (and do) discuss pros, cons and uselessness of such an endorsement. It would be interesting to know at the end of the endorsement how much groups expressed endorsement compared to the number of group that the foundation or some chapter officially recognize.
And to end on a more positive not, I want to recall that I did deeply appreciate participating in this strategy process so far, which produced interesting debates both off line and on line, and I already met two people making social science works who manifested interest for the archived discussion it generated.
Ĝis baldaŭ
¹ That is, from the extreme minority within the community which do care to give an answer and pass all the technical/language barrier to do so.
I will now restore the original status of the sections for organized groups and individual contributors, without any sorting order but the time the endorsement has been made.
Best, Nicole
On 27 October 2017 at 15:59, Peter Southwood peter.southwood@telkomsa.net wrote:
Hi Nicole. That is not the message we are getting from the endorsement page. Cheers, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Ebber Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 10:50 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Movement Strategy: Endorse the strategic direction today! #wikimedia2030
Hi all,
By endorsing, people and organizations state that they agree that the direction is the right way for us as a movement to move forward, and that they commit to participate in phase 2 conversations in good faith. And in phase 2, we will discuss how to fill this direction with life. The next steps will will be designed as an inclusive process, but we won't "oblige" anyone to contribute to phase 2, nor will we "ban" people from it. A look into our FAQ can further clarify:
"How you use the outcomes of this discussion is up to you. Some individuals or organizations may use it to inform programmatic or organizational strategy. Others may see it as a way to connect with the broader movement and invite others to contribute to Wikimedia. Some may not use it at all – and that’s okay!
Practically, this does not mean that volunteers will be more restricted in what activities they develop or engage in. Volunteers will remain free to engage in activities that interest them and they believe will most benefit Wikimedia and the world."
(https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Frequently_...)
Hope that helps, Nicole
On 27 October 2017 at 10:21, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org wrote:
I'm not sure how I missed that strongarm-statement ("the endorsement is also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 discussions"). I'm confident that this is a typo of a kind. It does not match with how I know the people in charge of this process.
Lodewijk
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 12:51 AM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
On 26 Oct 2017 09:00, "Nicole Ebber" nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de wrote:
Dear Wikimedians,
Today marks the final milestone of phase 1 of our movement strategy process. Over the past eight months, many of you, of your peers, colleagues, partners and friends have contributed to an endeavor that resulted in the new Strategic Direction of the Wikimedia movement.
This direction provides us with an answer to the question: What do we want to build and achieve as a movement over the next 10–15 years: By 2030, Wikimedia will become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge, and anyone who shares our vision will be able to join us.[1]
On behalf of the strategy team, it’s with great pleasure that I invite you today to declare your intent to work together towards this future. Organized groups as well as individual contributors of our movement are invited to endorse the Strategic Direction by adding their signature to the endorsement page on Meta-Wiki. You will find all necessary instructions there.[2]
By endorsing the Strategic Direction, you are not necessarily agreeing with every single outcome of the first phase. Endorsing means that you commit to participating in the next phase of this discussion in good faith and to help define, by Wikimania 2018, how to come to an agreement on roles, responsibilities, and organizational strategies that enable us to implement that future.
In addition to signing the meta page, you are all welcome to use the #wikimedia2030 hashtag on social media to celebrate and share your excitement with the world and encourage other Wikimedians to show their support, too.
Ideally, please leave questions or remarks on the talk page, to make it easier to follow-up in a structured way.
Thank you! Nicole
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction#Our_strategic_direction:_Service_and_Equity [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction/Endorsement
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Could Nicole, or someone else who is acting for the WMF, rephrase "Please note that the strategic direction will not be renegotiated, and *the endorsement is also a necessary step in order to participate in phase 2 discussions*." This needs clarification to ensure that the same values of transparency and openness declared in the Movement Strategy applies to its own process.
As currently worded, no afflilate that is committed to openness should endorse the document, as it appears to create a closed club that deliberately excludes all possible critical future voices. Whatever that is, it is not the Wikimedia Community.
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