On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Elisabeth Bauer wrote:
Delirium wrote:
I don't see the importance of the outside vs. inside distinction in this case. It is entirely proper for a Wikinewsie to be given the authority to represent themselves to the outside world as "vouched for by Wikinews" if, in fact, they are vouched for the Wikinews community. So long as they are not presenting themselves as representatives of the Wikimedia Foundation, I don't see the need for Foundation approval.
This seems right to me. Especially when it is other wikinewsies providing the verification, monitoring the accreditation pages, &c.
Elian wrote:
Okay, I do. The foundation as the owner of the name Wikinews is the ultimate instance to decide who is allowed what to do with this name. It can decide to
Hmm. So if, for instance, the Foundation decided that 'Wikinews' could only apply from now on to original reporting, that is all that would be allowed on the project? If the Foundation decided that a particular editor is unfit to contribute to a project whose name it owns, it can ban that person from contributing, or from mentioning to others that he has so contributed?
Would you feel better if there were a "Wiki reporter's guild" project on Wikinews, which distributed WRG press passes that included neither Wikinews name nor logo?
case of press credentials but it stays their decision. If the wikinews community wants to hand out press credentials, they should submit their policy to the foundation and have it approved by the foundation. Since the
You could make exactly the same claim about any editorial policy on Wikipedia. The effects of a change in tagging, AFD, NPOV, or other quality-related policy on EN:WP likely has far more of an effect on the external perception of the Wiki[pedia] trademark than a press credential policy (be it on WP, WN, or even Commons).
Once you stop trusting the community to develop sensible processes, every policy on every project eventually needs to be vetted by the foundation (whatever that means - special weekly Board sessions to review new processes? expedited treatment of minor process updates?). Every policy, no matter how small, affects Wikimedia trademarks in some way -- and the way they are percieved in some external relations.
--SJ
policy seems quite okay, I see no reason why the foundation shouldn't accept it, but there's certainly a need for approval as they want to use the trademark in external relations.
greetings, elian