I think it is clear that nobody can be desysopped on the basis of a few random responses on the mailing list.
On the other hand, this might be (most probably is) a typical situation we are going to encounter more and more. Somebody becomes an admin of a smaller project in the phase of growth, creates arbitrary policies (which may or may not directly contradict to written WMF policies), and bans outright everybody who disagrees with these policies. In this case, it makes no sense to talk about the community decision: if a sensible-size community is ever formed this is going to be a community of people who basically agree with the policies.
The questions are:
1) Does smth have to be done with this situation, or we (community in the broad sense) just leave this purely to the project; unless there are some organized complaints from active project users, or unless the project policies clearly contradict to WMF policies, nothing has to be done.
2) If smth has to be done, should it be a routine procedure on Meta (votes etc), or is it a case for the future arbcom. (I would be in favor of the former).
I am not so much talking about this particular project.
Cheers, Yaroslav
Hello,
On Jan 7, 2008 2:59 PM, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed. Stewards can use common sense as well, as community members, and the right choice would have been to desysop this user.
No. Stewards do not decide. This is a golden rule. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_policies#Don.27t_decide
Some stewards would personally be happy to desysop this user. But they must not do it. There is no emergency, we are not talking about some compromised sysop account deleting the en:wp main page over and over.
If you want to change steward rules, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Rewriting/Stewards_policy . But I doubt you will find many people to write in the policy that they can desysop who they want without any community decision. And by community decision, I am not talking about a few users agreeing on a mailing list.
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