The issue at hand here is that the linked-to Facebook page is not directly affiliated with the Wikipedia project. It might share some members, but Wikipedia has no control over its content. For a Wikipedia project that has had its share of misconceptions about its affiliations, I think it's inadvisable to link to a non-official page. Preferably, the page should meet some minimum requirements to become an official page of the project and be "anointed" as such before it's linked to from the project front page.
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018, 7:53 AM Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy minhhuywiki@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, but can I understand this as a promotion link to Facebook pages (managed by community) is recommended for outreach Wikipedia, even if it isn't an "official Facebook page" managed by WMF or chapters/usergroups?
Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Supporter, Wikimedian
2018-03-01 4:43 GMT+09:00 Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org:
Facebook is a de-facto major venue of communication for a great majority
of
Internet users. Many communities, user groups, and chapters have some
kind
of formal presence on Facebook -- "groups" or "pages". Directing
visitors
to your wiki to *your own wiki's* presence on this other major platform, i.e. a direct link to your group/page on Facebook, is absolutely fine.
It
is *quite* different from, say, just linking to www.facebook.com or explicitly endorsing it as a platform ("Join Facebook! It's great!") in general.
As you note, a number of communities have done or are doing this. Especially for smaller communities, the impact of such link placement can be a significant driver of traffic (i.e. readers!) to your community group/page on Facebook, which itself is important for outreach,
awareness,
and volunteer recruitment, and therefore is mission-aligned.
Cheers,
Asaf
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 11:06 AM Jimmy Wales jimmywales@wikia-inc.com wrote:
Speaking only for myself, not as a member of the board, I don't know of any legal or other reason why this should not be done. I think we should be very careful about links or appearance of endorsement especially on article pages, but outreach to people in the world should take place wherever we find a willing and useful audience.
On 2/28/18 6:29 AM, Minata Hatsune wrote:
I know it based on local consensus, but what I mean here is: those consensus valid for WMF Term of Use and others policies or not?
Because
it
same with Wikipedia have linked with 3rd party, which is a commerical website.
Trần Nguyễn Minh Huy Vietnamese Wikimedian
2018-02-28 18:52 GMT+09:00 James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com:
IMO this is based on local community consensus. It is not a global
policy.
James
On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:14 AM, Minata Hatsune <
minatahatsune@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello, I have a question: is it legal and valid for Wikipedia
communities
put promotion links to their Facebook pages on public space as Main
Page
or
Sitenotice?
I see many of Wikimedia projects doing this, as Indonesia
Wikipedia,
Arabic
Wikipedia, etc... Their Facebooks page also have blue checkmark of
as verified.
All what I concern is: Facebook is a commerical website, we put a
link
as
"official" to them, will it same with Wikipedia biased for Facebook
and
violated the NPOV policy? And in finally: is it OK if other
projects
can
do
that? Vietnamese Wikipedia also have a discussion about sitenotice promotion to Facebook at < https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Th%E1%BA%A3o_lu%E1% BA%ADn/Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_b%C3%A1_trang_Facebook_%22Wikipedia_ ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t%22 > . If this is OK, I think we have no reason to reject it.
Thank you!
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