(I won't make this personal and this is *not* to *anyone* or about any past incident in specific.) But I second Legoktm on this. That was surprising to me as well. We have pages and essays on Wikipedia such as * IPs are human too ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPs_are_human_too), * Arbs are people too ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbs_are_people_too), * Admins are people too ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Admins_are_people_too) We may need to have a similar essay/writing "WMF staff are people too" or something similar (unless we have it already, a quick search on Wikipedia, and Google showed nothing)
Thanks and regards User:Titodutta
On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 04:39, Kunal Mehta legoktm@member.fsf.org wrote:
Hi Pine,
On 2020-06-05 00:29, Pine W wrote:
I don't know what all was going on inside of WMF, but I would have wanted an outsider -- that is, not someone inside of WMF -- to review the actions of the staff, similar to how police departments are sometimes reviewed by outside agencies after high profile incidents, and I would want the report from that review to be public. Given my perspective on what happened, I think that at least one WMF staff person probably should have been demoted or fired, and perhaps more than one, up to and including Katherine. However, I don't have enough information to decide what accountability measures should have been taken.
So by your own account, you don't have enough information, yet you're still calling for people to be fired. We went over this in January - stop it.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2020-January/094131.html
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2020-January/094130.html
-- Legoktm
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