on 11/22/07 6:07 PM, Dan Rosenthal at swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
I couldn't answer more than conjecture here, since I haven't taken criminal law courses yet, (next semester though!)
Good luck to you. Students can be some of the best sources for brainstorming; their minds are focused on the subject, but haven't come to any conclusions yet.
If you're really interested
I'm very interested. In my work, I try to understand, and help, both the harassers and the harassed.
I can send a brief email
Please do.
or put you through to someone who could answer better than I.
Please do this also. (And, not "better", just "differently" ;-) ).
There was once a federal cyberstalking bill something like 10 years ago, but I don't think it ever made it out of committee.
Quickly via google, I see in Florida: http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/index.cfm?Mode=Bills&Submenu=1&BI_Mo... lInfo&Billnum=0479&Year=2003
"H479 passed; approved by Governor Jeb Bush on 5/21/03; effective 10/01/2003 Relating to the offense of stalking
Offense of Stalking; defines term "cyberstalk" to mean communication by means of electronic mail or electronic communication which causes substantial emotional distress & does not serve legitimate purpose; includes within offenses of stalking & aggravated stalking willful, malicious, & repeated cyberstalking of another person; provides penalties, etc. Amends 784.048; reenacts 775.084(1)(d), 790.065(2)(c), 921.0022(3)(f),(g), 960.001(1)(b). "
Oh, and I remember a couple years ago New York was trying to pass a cyberstalking and harassment law that was REALLY draconian, but once again I don't know whatever happened to it.
Also, wasn't there a more recent (i.e. second term bush) attempt to get a federal cyberstalking bill pushed through? Something about an amendment or a rider to an anti-violence against women act?
Thank you for all of this, Dan.
Marc
On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:48 PM, Marc Riddell wrote:
Dan,
In you experience, how do some of the definitions go? Isn't, particularly, harassment a subjective thing?
Marc
on 11/22/07 5:35 PM, Dan Rosenthal at swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
Depends on the jurisdiction.
-Dan
On Nov 22, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Marc Riddell wrote:
Thanks, Brigitte, I didn't know. I'd also be curious as to how the law defines stalking and harassment.
Marc
on 11/22/07 2:57 PM, Birgitte SB at birgitte_sb@yahoo.com wrote:
I happen to live near this town and do know the details [1].
I can't see how this could involve WMF. The idea is to make it possible to prosecute individuals who intentionally harass others online. It has nothing to do with the means of harassment. The only way I see WMF being affected is if the person charged with harassment is a checkuser or employee or something.
BirgitteSB
[1] http://us.f303.mail.yahoo.com/ym/Compose?box=Foundation%2dl&Mid=2863_106... 78 _3 2964_3161_498_0_31904_1095_70994589 &inc=&Search=&YY=11233&y5beta=yes&y5beta=ye s&order=down&sort=date&pos=0
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Marc
From: Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:20:08 -0500 To: WikiEN List wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Foundation List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Foundation-l] A Crime in Missouri
This is a question for you legal eagles out there:
A town in Missouri (USA) has made on-line stalking and harassment a crime. I don't know much of the details, I just got it from CNN. But my question is, if the person charged an/or convicted of this crime were doing this in Wikipedia, or one of the other Projects, would the case involve us.
Just curious.
Marc Riddell
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