On Feb 21, 2008, at 11:02 AM, Aphaia wrote:
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
Aphaia: We are not talking about the Orthodox Church of Russia, nor are we talking about Russia.
We are talking about the former Soviet Union,
And what is relevance to this list, please?
It is relevant to the list because it is an analogy offered by Lars as to why we should be in Egypt.
which was notoriously intolerant of religions, including Christianity and its related sects.
I think I don't need to be informed that from you Westerner.
Oh really? Because Westerners don't have any idea of what the cold war is like? Because my family is not from the former Soviet Union? Do you have some special privilege or immunity that exempts you from being informed of things you apparently don't know about by Westerners? Or is it that all Westerners are dumb, and you know everything there is to know about the Cold War era Soviet Union, and you can never learn a thing from a Westerner about it?
Your offense is misplaced.
Disagreed. You talk something never happened and unnecessarily mock religious situation. I don't feel insulted even if you don't remember me or His Grace Daniel but your joke is simply pointless and not funny.
What joke? What do you keep insisting on a joke or mocking? I think you have the wrong impression that is going on here, and yes, that is why I think your offense is misplaced. Nobody is joking about anything. We're debating reasons why the Foundation should or should not be supporting Wikimania in a country that is hostile to free expression. I fail to see where the joke and mockery is there, but feel free to let me know when you find it.
-Dan
Thanks,
-Dan
On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Aphaia wrote:
Guys Your jokes sounds very offending. Such thing has never happened for your information. I say it as an personally offended person and a catecumenata (sorry I don't know how you call it in English) at the Orthodox Church of Japan, an autonomous and canonical Orthodox church, whose primate is confirmed by the Orthodox Church of Russia.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Dan Rosenthal swatjester@gmail.com wrote:
Or perhaps, refusing to smuggle Bibles into the Soviet Union because smuggling Bibles is illegal by fiat of an intolerant government, and people who do it run the risk of being beaten or worse.
Fail analogy is full of fail.
-Dan
On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:44 AM, Lars Aronsson wrote:
Dan Rosenthal wrote:
This is really the kind of environment we want to host a Wikimania in? I'd have much more respect for people who BOYCOTT Wikimania in the name of free speech, freedom of the press, and journalistic integrity.
This is like refusing to smuggle Bibles into the Soviet Union, because it is such an awful atheist country. Think again.
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