Am 21.09.2011 21:52, schrieb Sue Gardner:
On 21 September 2011 12:37, Bjoern Hoehrmannderhoermi@gmx.net wrote:
- Sue Gardner wrote:
Yes we put the "vulva" on the main page and it got quite some attention. We wanted it this way to test out the reaction of the readers and to start a discussion about it. The result was as expected. Complains that it is offensive together with Praises to show what neutrality really is. After the discussion settled, we opened a Meinungsbild (Poll) to question if any article/image would be suitable for the main page (Actually it asked to not allow any topic). The result was very clear. 13 supported the approach to leave out some content from the main page. 233 (95%) were against the approach to hide some subjects from the main page.
Can you point me towards that poll?
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meinungsbilder/Beschr%C3%A4nkung_der_...
Thanks, Björn. That's so interesting: I hadn't known about that poll.
Can someone help me understand the implications of it?
Does it mean basically this: deWP put the Vulva article on its front page, and then held a poll to decide whether to i) stop putting articles like Vulva on its front page, because they might surprise or shock some readers, or ii) continue putting articles like Vulva on the front page, regardless of whether they surprise or shock some readers. And the voted supported the latter.
If I've got that right, I assume it means that policy on the German Wikipedia today would support putting Vulva on the main page. Is there an 'element of least surprise' type policy or convention that would be considered germane to this, or not?
I'd be grateful too if anyone would point me towards the page that delineates the process for selecting the Article of the Day. I can read pages in languages other than English (sort of) using Google Translate, but I have a tough time actually finding them :-)
Thanks, Sue
At first we had some basic discussion which topic might be suitable for the main page. That was the offspring for idea to put the excellent article "vulva" together with a depiction (photograph) on the main page to see what would be the reaction. There was quite some reaction, but not so much as we expected. The opinions where fairly balanced. After some other topics with "may be objectionable content" followed in the meantime the discussion was going forward, leading to the decision (initiated by a group of users who opposed that every topic should be treated equally) to create a Meinungsbild (the linked one). The result was very clear and one of the main arguments where: "How do we draw a line between objectionable and not objectionable content, without violating NPOV?"
After that we did not represent one shocking article after the other. We just let them come and if the article itself is well written he will have it's chance to be put on the main page (it has to be an "excellent" or "worth reading" article, after the article quality rating system [1]) . The decision will be made in an open progress (even so it looks like a poll, it isn't) found at: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Diskussion:Hauptseite/Artikel_des_Tag...
[1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Kandidaturen_von_Artikeln,_Listen_und...