Mediawiki is indeed the most versatile platform, but that just means it's okay at most things. It doesn't mean it's better than other platforms explicitly designed for a particular job ;-)
I'd prefer self-hosting on general principle, but if our operations people say it's better and more stable hosted elsewhere - and presumably they have - then fair enough.
Andrew.
On 5 September 2013 18:29, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
This was definitely mentioned at Wikimania. What I understood is that it will be hosted externally for performance and reliability reasons, but that the rest should remain the same.
So, A blog for one of the top 10 websites in the world is being hosted externally "for performance and reliability"? - That doesn't sound right. Maybe Mr. Roth & friends can clarify a bit here.
Blogs generally don't require a lot of resources, aside from some comment oversight. But it's not like there is a deluge of comments or moderation required in the current blog - they average about 1, maybe 2 comments and from my impression, don't particularly have a high number of regular followers.
This seems like something trivial, perhaps because of familiarity with Wordpress, it is being preferred in this case. But then, why are we willingly and so easily handing the visitors to a third party? especially with so much paranoia about monitoring and privacy issues. Even for the sake of our own impression and opinions - Is there a particular role there that Mediawiki can't fill in? (I recall Erik once argued that wiki is the most versatile platform, does he believe that Wordpress is a better alternative? )
Regards Theo
Anyway, I'm not an expert here, just what I understood from Matthew Roth & friends
Lodewijk
2013/9/5 Richard Symonds richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk
This is being discussed on-wiki too, at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Privacy_policy#Blog_not_hosted_by_WordP...
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On 5 September 2013 14:00, Neil Harris neil@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
On 05/09/13 13:37, MZMcBride wrote:
Hi.
The recent draft privacy policy mentions that the Wikimedia blog (https://blog.wikimedia.org) will soon be hosted by WordPress.com.
Was this discussed anywhere? If so, where?
What is the proposed URL structure of a blog hosted by WordPress.com?
I
think there's a reasonable expectation that when a user visits *.wikimedia.org, we don't simply send his or her browser info to a
third
party without his or her consent. This has come up previously with
Jobvite
and iframes. It's also come up with the use of tracking tools such as Google Analytics, which not only affect one-time visitors, but aim to persist client-side.
How will the blog be backed up? Relying on an external service means
not
being in control of the data. Will there be regular backups made to
ensure
that if WordPress.com goes away, we won't lose all of our posts?
MZMcBride
I agree: this does seem to be a curious decision, at odds with the
WMF's
general policy of self-hosting as much as possible in order to maintain maximum independence from outside entities, particularly in the context
of
the recent concerns about privacy. I would have thought that
maintaining
a
WordPress installation would be well within the WMF's capabilities.
Neil
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