--- Anthere Anthere9@yahoo.com wrote:
Birgitte SB wrote:
Also since next nothing in our
project is available under GDFL it make the
"freeness"
very complicated. Even public domain is not straightforward. There are things that are PD in
the
US bur not in England for example. I could give
many
more inconsistencies of international copyright.
Which is why I did not mentionned a specific license. We use several licenses for images. Wikinews is not under GFDL. What we would all agree probably is the freedom to use content.
The main difference as I see is this. Wikipedia is creating content. WP could chose to make it's content free or not; they chose to make it free. Wikisource has no control on whether our content is free or where it is free. We can only choose whether or not to make it available. Downstream users are going to have to evaluate whether they are free to use Wikisource contect individually unless they are in the United States. Our material is under various licenses as well as public domain (as applicable in the US). We cannot give anyone a blanket guarantee the content is free for them to use whether we include non-commercial or not. They are still going to have to evaluate each license category and judge based on the laws they must abide by.
Would you be interested to create a group of
people
whose goals would be
- To study which languages should be covered in
our
projects, or not
- To study the wiseness to open a new language of
a
given project (according to number of interested editors etc...)
- To gather a collection of pages of rules and
guidelines to mandatorily translate in the future language before any
creation
of the new wiki
- To collect pages to suggest new wikis to help
them
find their way in the jungle (with recommandations such as "register to foundation-l", "follow requests for permission on meta" etc...)
Do you think that would be interesting ? If so, would you agree to lead the creation of
that
group ?
Ant
I think that is very interesting and would
definately
want to be involved. I do not know that I have
enough
conacts amoung people with different language
skills
to start it up myself. If such group of people
can be
rounded up I would definately want to see this through. One the first things I feel is needed is updated stats on the current wikis so we can see
what
worked in the past and what has stalled. Also if
the
stats page gave numbers of admins and buerucrats
(if
any) that might be useful.
We always fall on the same issue Birgitte... many would think it great, but few would agree to lead such a project. At best follow another person doing it.
Okay, so... who is motivated to start such a project ?
- which entirely new languages should be accepted or
opposed (including constructed languages, dialects...)
- when a new language should be allowed to start in
a given project
- making guidelines for those starting a new
language
- support to new languages starting (checkuser,
sysop etc...)
etc...
who is motivated to start such a project ?
Ant
I think new languages should be supported if they seem likely to suceed establishing an active community. Before we can judge that or set up any guidelines we really need more information. I would very much like to take the first step in this. Which I believe is analizing what has worked or not in the past. But right now some of the stats pages are months old and Wikisource has none at all for individual languages. I don't know that the information I can get from any updated stats would really tell what makes a community sucessfull. However it should allow us to see what communities have a certain level of activity. Then I think we should ask people from various communities to fill out a survey about the beginings of their community and maybe we can find some indicators we can use to answer your points.
BirgitteSB
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