Le 24/05/2020 à 00:23, Erik Moeller a écrit :
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:10 AM Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hay Kranen created a proof of concept where Commons is searched for pictures that (per standard) use a "depicts" statement.
This is a beautiful proof of concept; thank you for sharing it, Gerard, and thank you, Hay, for developing it. It really illustrates the power and importance of the Structured Data efforts.
To pick a different example, imagine that you want to illustrate an article about the importance of wheelchair accessibility at your university. You might try a major search engine like Google Images. Try replacing the word "wheelchair" with translations in other languages. Note how the result sets are different, and how you may get a much smaller set of results in languages with a smaller Internet presence.
https://www.google.com/search?q=wheelchair&tbm=isch (English) https://www.google.com/search?q=kitimaguru&tbm=isch (Swahili, far less relevant and smaller set)
In contrast, the use of Wikidata items means that, as long as a label exists for a given language, you can search in _any_ language and get the same images:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/hay/sdsearch/#q=haswbstatement:P180=Q191931
The fact that the UI of this tool is currently English is an implementation detail; even with Hay's implementation, you can type in "kitimaguru" and get the same results as in English.
Sorry Erik, but I do not follow you here...
For some reasons, it is true for "kitimaguru", but if I search for "lamp" (EN) versus "lampe" (FR), or "key" (English) versus "clé" (French), I really do not get the same results at all and of course, it does not proposes me the same Qs.
I love that functionality, do not get me wrong, I am delighted to see it.
But except for English speakers (and now Dutch speakers it seems), it can not be used.
So wonderful proof of concept. But please... let's have all languages here !
Florence
It would be wonderful to see this functionality developed further, and to ultimately make this kind of search functionality central to the user experience for Wikimedia Commons, so that speakers of any language are given _meaningful_ access to freely reusable media.
Warmly,
Erik
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