Am 29.11.2011 23:47, schrieb Kim Bruning:
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:09:04AM +0100, M?ller, Carsten wrote:
... but -if we want to reach consensus[1]- what we really need to be discussing is: screwdrivers.
sincerely, Kim Bruning
No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers and drills. We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
Right, hammering ourselves on the thumb is a bad idea :-P
However, there's nothing wrong with making sure that people don't get odd images when they don't expect it (something wikipedia is good at, but commons admittedly perhaps slightly less so). This is the screw.
That is more or less a search and time issue. If you search for a cucumber and a sexual related image ranks first instead of an actual cucumber then it would be time to improve the search function. If we have not enough people categorizing images the right way, we might start to recruit more helpers.
If we are careful enough we might be able to recycle the hammer to construct two or more small screwdrivers an argument against the image filter that is read as this: "Put more effort inside ideas how to improve search functionality and to help categorizing. It will actually help everyone and would get clear referendum results." ;P
I don't think a filter (the hammer) will be very successful at doing so, because filters have simply never been very good at keeping away unexpected content, and can easily lead to censorship and other unwanted side effects (hitting ourselves on the thumb). However, perhaps some other tool might be useful for fixing the screw. Some people have come up with some interesting proposals.
But shouting at each other about filters is probably counter-productive at this point. ;-)
sincerely, Kim Bruning