Pine,
As far as I know, government employees in most of the countries can vote only if they are citizens. So yes, of course we are not taking there democratic voice. As I didn't said a staff member can't vote because he is a staff member. Just saying that it is not enough to be a staff member in order to get the vote privilege.
Itzik
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On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Itzik,
If I understand you correctly, you are asking about whether WMF and thematic organization bylaws should allow employees to vote in trustee elections for their own orgs.
I can see how this could create interesting conflict-of-interest problems.
However, in all non-autocratic republics that I know about, government employees can vote as any other citizens can. I'm also of the view that WMF operates like a university, and a modest amount of staff involvement in selecting their supervisors in that environment is ok.
Pine On Oct 5, 2014 12:41 AM, "Itzik - Wikimedia Israel" < itzik@wikimedia.org.il> wrote:
Hey,
Don't worry, we indeed have a lot of time till the next elections, but as this issue had been raised during the last elections - and we decided
that
we can't change the rules few weeks before the elections, now I want to raise the discussion enough time before.
According to the current rules [1], in order to influence and vote in
the
elections, you need to be active editor, developer or WMF
staff/contractor.
Last year this issue concern some of us. The foundation is not small organizations as it been before, and by comparison, the number of people participating in the elections every year is not high.
For example, last elections there were 1809 valid votes. By comparison,
the
number of WMF staff this days is 218, what makes there voting power 12%
of
the total voters last year. This consider to be a great amount of power when we are talking about elections (In the last election you would have around 650 votes in order to be elected...)
Wikimedia thematic organizations staff and contractors for example don't have the same privilege to vote only because they are employees of the movement, only if they are editors as well. The question - what make the WMF staff different, and if this is not a little bit problematic that the staff have such power to decide on their direct board, but in general -
the
board of the whole movement.
Do we need to give the same privilege also to all the staff in our movement? Should we limited the elections to staff (both WMF and chapters) that are active editors or developers as additional to their work in the movement?
I'll be happy to hear yours input.
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Vote_Que...
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/Results
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