If you want better interwiki communication, then go do it. I can't agree more with that goal, but to make it work, users (esp. admins and CUs) need to go out and do it every day. For the most part, CUs /are/ doing this - that's what our mailing list is for. For admins, there is #wikimedia-admin, which is invite-only, but not hard to find someone to let you in. If you're not on IRC, then there is also drini's daylog (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Drini/daylog) and the vandalism noticeboard (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Vandalism_reports#Current_cross_wiki_vandali sm).
Perhaps setting up an additional mailing list for admins involved cross-wiki to mirror the IRC channel would be useful? The CUs have both, why not both for admins too? Perhaps it'd be better to have it limited to members of SWMT rather than just admins? That point might need more thought, but I think a mailing list where this kind of info can be shared could well be useful (more useful than #wikimedia-admin).
Mike.lifeguard
-----Original Message----- From: White Cat [mailto:wikipedia.kawaii.neko@gmail.com] Sent: May 6, 2008 1:23 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Dealing with interwiki disruption
Exactly and the local community wasn't completely oblivious to Poetlisters conduct back on English wikipedia. He was carefully watched, tutored and polished to what he is now. His own effort was vital, no doubt, but he wasn't unguided.
What I am suggesting is not an Interwiki Police, I would be the first in line to oppose that. What I am suggesting is better communication between wikis. The arrogant tone between wikis should be abolished.
What I seek is better information sharing between wikis. I should not need to pay attention to individual noticeboards and block logs of every wiki. Intense cases of disruption should be noted in the same site.
For example checkuser info on indef blocked user should be shared among checkusers. If user 'A' is banned on wiki 'X' and then decides to register the account 'B' on the wiki 'Y' the local community should be prepared for it.
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Wily D wilydoppelganger@gmail.com wrote:
Indeed, just yesterday Poetlister was unblocked on en.wikipedia, at least partly based on her long history of good conduct at Wikiquote. One of the canonical ways to get unbanned is to go to another project and behave.
WilyD
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Chad innocentkiller@gmail.com wrote:
Can't wait for the politics of that one.
Community 1: Block him! UserABC was bad here! Community 2: He's a highly productive user here.
I'm sure we can all imagine how that'd end up.
-Chad
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net
wrote:
White Cat wrote:
Look let me give a real-life example. Say you commit a crime in
the US, if
you were to escape to Mexico you would freely roam aaround because
you have
not done anything wrong there.
Each individual wiki is independent yes, but we need a level of communication among wikis. Like between fr.wikipedia and
fr.wikibooks or
en.wiktionary and simple.wikipedia, same language sister project.
Ah! Something like interwiki extradition. :-)
Ec
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