On 3/10/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
My questions:
Is the current he.wp rules structure which allegedly forbids the
pornographic references documented?
What sort of documentation are you looking for? It is not quite an official policy and I have more than one admin at he who supports that argument. It is also not included in the "Deletion policy" page on he (although an admin tried to add it to the page, he was reverted and the page was protected and reverted back to the version that doesn't disallow articles on porn subjects).
If so, is there an english translation for those of us not enlightened
enough to read Hebrew?
I would be happy to translate anything you would like to be translated but then again, as shown below, you don't trust me.
Right now, we are all speculating in the dark.
If there is no written policy and people are banned for violating an unwritten policy, then I believe there is a Foundation issue.
Not everyone is automatically banned (although I suppose that might be because nobody dares to create an article about such a subject), I suppose the admins had some (albeit very little) merit in banning me as there is a known troll who tries to create porn articles every some time. All articles on such subjects are speedy deleted though.
If there is a written policy that is in conflict with Foundation
policy, then I believe there is a Foundation issue.
It is not a written policy and was never accepted, that is the problem. However, if you try adding an article about, say, Jenna Jameson it will be speedy deleted (just to clarify, we have a process similar to AFD where issues such as notability are discussed) and nobody will justify the speedy deletion as a speedy deletion of an article about a non-notable subject.
If there's a written policy in accord with Foundation policy, then
there's a he.wp user education problem, and possibly a lack of AGF, but those aren't really Foundation problems per se.
Heh, AGF is pretty much non-existent there but I digress. How can a policy banning pretty much all articles on subjects of porn (regardless of notability, let me repeat again, nobody is claiming the subjects aren't notable) not be against foundation policy (ie. wikipedia is not censored)?
Or, possibly, we're just being trolled.
I was recently appointed admin on Wikimedia Commons so that might add to my credibility.
I think we currently lack enough info to determine which of these
cases is actually going on. Can someone who isn't involved but who can read Hebrew research and give us a report?
This is why I suggest Danny as he's both trusted and a Hebrew speaker but of course he's a busy guy. There are also User:El C, User:Avraham and User:woggly on en who are Hebrew speakers (all en admins, btw).
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